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Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by dsego »

Crontab wrote: post #128
12_throw_away wrote: post #79

I swear I don't usually complain about UI styling updates, because it's usually not a big deal - but this looks really, really bad [1]. It's less functional with bizarre transparency choices destroying legibility, and big rounded corners taking up more dead space. And stylistically, the layouts just look unbalanced and amateurish (It reminds me of what happens when I attempt to do CSS layouts). Most Linux desktops un…

So far the only thing bothering me so far is the way the tabs look (in Finder and Safari). And I did turn on the menu bar background.

Have the tabs in Finder always been slow to appear? Right now there is a noticeable delay from when I press cmd+tab to when tab animates itself into existence, reminds me of lag in windows 11.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by betaby »

diffrinse wrote: post #147
smcleod wrote: post #95

I've been running it since the RC and am currently in the process of uninstalling it. The new UI is so incredibly ugly I honestly cannot understand how they thought it was acceptable to even released as a beta let alone an RC and now release. There's SO much padding and wasted screen real estate, disjointed looking floating inner panels, window corners that are so rounded you see gaps in full screen apps, inconsisten…

So the Gnome 3 gang were ahead of their time?

Indeed, gives old Gnome vibe.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by waz0wski »

w10-1 wrote: post #112
tiltowait wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Native container support is pretty exciting.

ICYMI: Apple's new native containers start in ~100ms and have better security. I updated to Tahoe just for this. And it's open-source: https://github.com/apple/container It's not really supported before Tahoe, presumably due to required hypervisor support.

Interesting to see this utilizes kata-containers project alongside virtualization.framework. Cool project.

https://github.com/kata-containers/kata-containers/

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by timeon »

pants2 wrote: post #21
cosmic_cheese wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spotlight got a major upgrade. It’s notably faster and deeply integrates with Shortcuts (letting you specify input variables, for example) among other things.

Anyone using Raycast has had these features forever. Nice to see some attention on Spotlight but it's still nowhere close to the functionality you get from Raycast.

Sure and QuickSilver had it even earlier. But it is nice that one can finally extend Spotlight with Services ehm I mean Shortcuts.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by ryandrake »

setopt wrote: post #130
ryandrake wrote: post #17

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It's been so long since Apple has released anything in either iOS or macOS that excited me as a user. I don't seem to be their target customer anymore. The only reason I even have to "upgrade" to a higher version number is how quickly app developers (including Apple themselves) drop support for older OS's. My iPhone which is stuck on iOS 15 runs just as well as the day I bought it, but every other app I download tell…

I got my first MacBook at Catalina, and still miss it. For a while, I downgraded my Intel Mac to Catalina again; I love the aesthetic compared to the newer releases, and it’s fast and snappy. But the situation now is: No recent apps work on Catalina since it’s considered obsolete (except open-source apps you compile yourself). But Big Sur and higher are ridiculously slow on Intel hardware, to the point where it’s unu…

I’ve got a MacBook and Mac Mini stuck on Monterey (12), and an iMac stuck on Big Sur (11). I’m pretty much dead in the water when it comes to software compatibility, unless I want to put Linux on them. Even homebrew gives me a warning that they’ve stopped support and to expect everything to break. It’s a sad state of affairs.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by spudlyo »

bitmasher9 wrote: post #166
OGEnthusiast wrote: post #160

The reason Liquid Glass on macOS specifically is getting so much blowback is that it isn't just updating the translucency effect with the new glass refraction effect - they've also increased the border radius of most windows, increased paddings in toolbars, sidebars, etc. and overall made the UI much less information-dense, which is wild for a desktop OS. If they had just changed the translucency effect, I think this…

I feel like every macOS update has been worse than the last, since like 2015-2018 or so. Still, their only real competition is Windows 11, which isn’t well received either.

I'm still on Sonoma on my Mac, but I've recently been splitting my time between macOS and Linux and I'm starting to be pretty happy with Linux.

The main problem I had with living in a Gnome desktop environment, is with the keyboard. I'm not willing to abandon my use of Emacs control+meta sequences for cursor and editing movements everywhere in the GUI. On macOS, this works because the command (super/Win on Linux/Windows) key is used for common shortcuts and the control key is free for editing shortcuts.

I spent a day or so hacking around with kanata[0], which is a kernel level keyboard remapping tool, that lets you define keyboard mapping layers in a similar way you might with QMK firmware. When I press the 'super/win/cmd' it activates a layer which maps certain sequences to their control equivalents, so I can create tabs, close windows, copy and paste (and many more) like my macOS muscle memory wants to do. Other super key sequences (like Super-L for lock desktop or Super-Tab for window cycling) are unchanged. Furthermore, when I hit the control or meta/alt/option key, it activates a layer where Emacs editing keys are emulated using the Gnome equivalents. For example, C-a and C-e are mapped to home/end, etc.

After doing this, and tweaking my Gnome setup for another day or so, I am just as comfortable on my Linux machine as I am on my Mac.

[0]: https://github.com/jtroo/kanata

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by etempleton »

dsego wrote: post #175
etempleton wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have been running the beta from the beginning and they have improved quite a bit, but I am actually shocked they didn't delay Mac OS 26, because the design is so rough around the edges. Some of the larger aesthetic changes, such as the menu bar and the dock look good, but there is so much more that looks objectively awful. 1. the way window UI elements float in bubbles on the top over a white background is horrible…

Looking at the Slack icon right now, and it just looks blurry and low resolution, same for Calendar and some others, it's awful.

The maps icon is the most egregious. It makes my head hurt.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by Angostura »

It’s butt-ugly, but I find the usability better. Previously everything was so white that I found it difficult on occasion to distinguish between windows above and below. The heavier drop shadows and rounded corners are actually quite helpful

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by christophilus »

fridder wrote: post #180
OGEnthusiast wrote: post #160

The reason Liquid Glass on macOS specifically is getting so much blowback is that it isn't just updating the translucency effect with the new glass refraction effect - they've also increased the border radius of most windows, increased paddings in toolbars, sidebars, etc. and overall made the UI much less information-dense, which is wild for a desktop OS. If they had just changed the translucency effect, I think this…

If there is an alternative to the m-series that lets me keep the battery life I'd jump ship. The m-series chips are just so good though

I’m using one of the Lenovo Aura editions. It doesn’t match the MacBook, but I also don’t worry about battery at all any more and perf is just fine for my needs. I don’t miss Apple at all. Now, if only there was a Linux phone…

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by [deleted] »

smcleod wrote: post #95

I've been running it since the RC and am currently in the process of uninstalling it. The new UI is so incredibly ugly I honestly cannot understand how they thought it was acceptable to even released as a beta let alone an RC and now release. There's SO much padding and wasted screen real estate, disjointed looking floating inner panels, window corners that are so rounded you see gaps in full screen apps, inconsisten…

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