Vibe code is legacy code

Post by ggregoryarms » Thu, Jul 31, 2025, 12:37 AM UTC

asadotzler wrote: post #100

hibikir wrote: post #4

I think you are not going far enough though: All code is legacy code. So vibe coding's ability to make writing more code faster isn't special because it's code nobody understands: Your hand-rolled code is also bad. Once you embrace the fact that all the code is legacy, then it's clear how writing more code, faster cannot be helpful from a maintenance POV: You are just creating more work for yourself. And no, librarie…

That's not what legacy means. Legacy means the people who understood it are gone and you're left with code that's hard to maintain because it's hard to understand because the people who understood it are gone.

Post by mikert89 » Thu, Jul 31, 2025, 12:41 AM UTC

delfinom wrote: post #162

mikert89 wrote: post #128

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Yeah I think its over, it will take a while for the effects to ripple through society, but writing code will be seen as something like wood working

I'm more curious how society will look when half the population is living in tents.

Post by randmeerkat » Thu, Jul 31, 2025, 12:42 AM UTC

raincole wrote: post #171

doesnt_know wrote: post #119

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The fact your friend is suffering no consequences and is able to just carry on is exactly what is wrong with this industry. In a perfect world the creation of software would have been locked down like other engineering fields, with developers and companies suffering legal consequences for exposing customer information.

People really want to bring down the growth of the USA's software industry to EU level.

Post by randmeerkat » Thu, Jul 31, 2025, 12:44 AM UTC

CharlieDigital wrote: post #131

dashdotme wrote: post #121

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> Was it worth it? Yes, it is terrible, shoddy, insecure code, but he proved out a viable business with just a few hundred dollars of investment. This feels like less of a win for the customers though. They're paying money and exposing their data insecurely, all for a product that maybe does what it's trying to do. > Now he's hiring a developer to shore it up. This is going to be way harder than it sounds... I'm all…

It's a win for the customers. From what he's told me, there's zero churn so far despite the hacks ( including one where the hacker emailed every customer about the hack ). It's because the software is that much of an improvement over the incumbents at a fraction of the cost. Better features, more flexible, easier to use, faster, etc. Everything about it is better than the two major vendors. The rebuild will likely en…

Post by suzzer99 » Thu, Jul 31, 2025, 12:50 AM UTC

mr_donk wrote: post #61

Don't you think the next step is a programming language that isn't even meant to be human readable? What's the point of using an LLM to generate python or Swift or whatever? The output of the LLM should be something that runs and does whatever it's been asked to do... why should the implementation be some programming language that was designed for humans to grok? Once that's true the idea of it being maintainable bec…