IMHO this is an attempt to legally claim some rights over that land in the future
The wire that transforms much of Manhattan into one big, symbolic home (2017)
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Re: The wire that transforms much of Manhattan into one big, symbolic home (2017)
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This sounds roughly like the sorts of criticisms Jesus would make of the ‘legalism’ of the Pharisees, by which I mean an excessive emphasis on external acts - going through the motions - to appear to obey the law while neglecting its spiritual purpose. A good example is where the Pharisees criticize Jesus for working on the Sabbath when he heals a man. Another is where the Pharisees bring an adulteress to Jesus, and he remarks that any man who lusts after a woman has already committed adultery in his heart. And then there are the parts where the Pharisees try to trap Jesus, such as when they try to find loopholes to justify divorce.
Post-Christian Judaism following the destruction of the Temple only entrenched this Pharisaism by turning the faith away from one of Temple sacrifice, complete with a Temple priesthood, to one hyperfocused on slicing and dicing the Torah. (The Catholic mass continues the sacrificial liturgy, albeit in a perfect and elevated form; the Mosaic covenant is fulfilled and the perfect sacrifice of Christ - the spotless Lamb of God - becomes the sacrificial lamb for which the prior animal sacrifice was a preparation.)
Re: The wire that transforms much of Manhattan into one big, symbolic home (2017)
#183Since people seem to be completely misunderstanding what the point of this is, or why it's even a problem in the first place, let's start with two simple definitions of what's going on: 1. In Jewish law, the definition of "work that is prohibited on the Sabbath" includes "moving objects outside the private domain". 2. The definition of "domain" has three kinds: "public domain" (such as a house), "private domain" (suc…
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Re: The wire that transforms much of Manhattan into one big, symbolic home (2017)
#184Earlier quoted context omitted.
I remember attending a tech conference years ago in Dearborn, Michigan. One of the speakers was a devout Jew from NY City. On Saturday he taped the lock open on his hotel room so he wouldn't need to use a key. This drove hotel security nuts and one of the conference admins had to get involved because the hotels employees who were all Arabic did not accept his explanation. They were certain he was up to something shad…
There are hotels and apartment blocks that have physical locks as well as the swipe card. So you can use the physical key on the Sabbath.
I recently heard that an apartment block near me cannot have automatic emergency lighting or fire sprinklers retrofitted incase there is a fire on a Saturday.
Forget about burning to death or falling down pitch-black stairs and breaking your neck, it is apparently more important that electrical circuits are not energized or a valve is not opened on a saturday!
Absolutely absurd.
I am indifferent to people stringing up wires to lie to themselves. They are not "invisible" and the poles they are on are an eye sore in my part of London and also attract negative attention (e.g. people put palestinian flags or stickers etc on them). But whatever.
What I do have an issue is that someone's religious beliefs are preventing basic fire safety protections for everyone else. We in London/UK are rightly getting a lot of fire protections retrofitted to older apartment blocks because of the Grenfell disaster [1] - this is not some hypothetical thing, its a real problem in older buildings and it disgusts me individuals can veto fundamental basic fire protection for everyone else in their building just because of their own personal beliefs, despite being totally willing to go along with this Eruv sleight-of-hand.
Fire does not respect religion.
Re: The wire that transforms much of Manhattan into one big, symbolic home (2017)
#185Earlier quoted context omitted.
> the word of God has obvious contradictions and inconsistencies Such as?
"Problem of evil". https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_evil
This is answered throughout scriptures. The problem of sin is human's rejection of the goodness of God. We love ourselves more than we love him and in that rejection regularly advantage ourselves at the disadvantage of those around us. In order to solve the problem, we would have to be wiped out. But in the wisdom and goodness of God he planned a way from the beginning to solve our transgressions.
God created all things out of love, and made humans as image bearers to tend to his creation. Out of love he did these things, fully knowing that humans were capable of turning away from God. Humans put themselves before God in the garden and by doing so brought evil into the world. The rest of scripture is God's good plan to turn the world right again, to expel evil from his good creation while also saving those whom bear his image that he loves. He does this by giving them the law to expose the sin of humankind, and sending the 2nd person of the trinity of God (Jesus) to fulfill the law. Jesus offered himself as a sacrifice to pay the guilt of the sins of humans. In doing so bringing true justice and mercy for the evil brought into the world. In his resurrection he conquered death (the ultimate punishment for evil, death is something that was never intended in God's good creation) and setting in motion the process of restoring the world, bringing about new creation in which Jesus is the first fruits. The world will be set right and all sin, evil, and tears wiped away.
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Re: The wire that transforms much of Manhattan into one big, symbolic home (2017)
#186Earlier quoted context omitted.
> the word of God has obvious contradictions and inconsistencies Such as?
"Problem of evil". https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_evil
That isn’t a Scriptural example, but a general criticism.
In any case, the problem of evil is not the showstopper some think it is [0][1].
Re: The wire that transforms much of Manhattan into one big, symbolic home (2017)
#187Earlier quoted context omitted.
If your parents said come home by 6:00 PM and instead of coming home you put a wire around the city to “make it your home” and stay out, you’re tricking your parents.
G-d is not your parents, and set and worded His rules with omniscience that your parents do not have.
Is character substitution a clever rule hack also?
Re: The wire that transforms much of Manhattan into one big, symbolic home (2017)
#188Why not make a tiny 10cm wire at the north pole to do the entire planet? And bless the oceans for unlimited holy water. Anyone who goes to the beach is baptised.
The loop can be anywhere, not just the north pole :)
Re: The wire that transforms much of Manhattan into one big, symbolic home (2017)
#189Earlier quoted context omitted.
Firstly, if the article is accurate, it still separates private from public spaces. An omnipotent and omniscient God would have made the rules anticipating good faith interpretations in different times and cultures. It still means accepting a restriction. I am Christian so do not think the same way about religious law, but if I was asked to come up with a defence of this idea, I would argue it fulfils the purpose of…
>I am Christian so do not think the same way about religious law Judaism isn't Christianity any more than Islam is. Trying to apply Christian norms to Jewish practices usually ends up in a pogrom when Christians realize that Judaism isn't Christianity. And just in case I hadn't said this enough: Judaism isn't Christianity. I have no idea why the right in America has run with the whole "Judaeo-Christian Western Cultur…
It is absolutely not a "clean break". While Judaism and Christianity are distinct, they are related in that Christianity builds on the Hebrew Scriptures. I think perhaps the best imagery for their relationship is Romans 11 and the olive tree. That takes some studying to fully understand though.
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