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Re: Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline

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Post by dewey »

crazygringo wrote: post #179

I'm intrigued by the decision to call it "Docs". In any other circumstance it would be a clear trademark infringement on Google Docs. It's literally the same product with the same name, it has an extremely similar logo and almost exactly the same typeface in its logo. But since this is a government project between France and Germany, maybe governments are allowed to ignore trademarks? Or Google wants to stay on their…

I guess that's the "problem" with generic product names. There's also Apple Calendar, Google Calendar, Microsoft Calendar etc. - Docs is not different than that.

Re: Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline

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Post by thiht »

crazygringo wrote: post #179

I'm intrigued by the decision to call it "Docs". In any other circumstance it would be a clear trademark infringement on Google Docs. It's literally the same product with the same name, it has an extremely similar logo and almost exactly the same typeface in its logo. But since this is a government project between France and Germany, maybe governments are allowed to ignore trademarks? Or Google wants to stay on their…

Yeah if you want a strong trademark on your product, don’t call it "Docs"

Re: Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline

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Post by StrauXX »

staplers wrote: post #165
slowtrek wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Notion is not an example of delightful software and it is very much one of the most reproducible apps ever. I don't know how they managed to make it fashionable amongst startups, but it's certainly not because it's an innovative product.

it is very much one of the most reproducible apps ever Would love to move to an alternative that also works in the browser, got any suggestions? I haven't found one that does what Notion does. I genuinely want to get off their AI training grounds but cannot. Your comment reeks of condescension because you are not the target user.

We are currently moving to the Odoo knowledge application. It's very similar to notion but much less sluggish.

Re: Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline

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Post by grvdrm »

wim wrote: post #52
mrweasel wrote: post #43

Looking at how much infrastructure needs to be spun up, I don't really see this as a good solution for personal note taking. If you use the Docker environment, you spin up 10 or more containers... including KeyClock. I get that this is intended to by hosted by a company or an organisation, but plenty of people are using Notion just as individuals. Most people would be better of with Obsidian, Bear, Notion or even App…

We're working on an "IDE for notes/tasks" [1] in the space of Notion and so on where you can easily self-host the sync backend with a single binary. The idea is that you can choose between cloud or self-host (and "eject" at any time to switch between the two if you ever change your mind). We hope that might be a good balance between some companies or individuals wanting to self-host but still making it accessible whe…

Also going to sign up.

Love your site. Looks great. Lots of visual appeal. Not the same cookies cutter Tailwind theme that seems to be present everywhere.

Re: Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline

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Post by no_wizard »

slowtrek wrote: post #166
staplers wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it is very much one of the most reproducible apps ever Would love to move to an alternative that also works in the browser, got any suggestions? I haven't found one that does what Notion does. I genuinely want to get off their AI training grounds but cannot. Your comment reeks of condescension because you are not the target user.

Shared Google Docs.

Google Docs isn’t near the same as Notion. Not even close.

Notion treats information as a repository and keeps things indexed, searchable, and has some ways to automatically sort things, has ability to seamlessly create different types of documents and weave them together and so much more that Docs lack.

Docs doesn’t even have native markdown support last I checked

Re: Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline

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Post by thiht »

eitland wrote: post #164
maelito wrote: post #21

This tool is part of a WIP complete suite of tools for public agents called "La suite numérique". https://lasuite.numerique.gouv.fr

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Or maybe the target of tools developed by the French government is France. Not everything has to make sense worldwide. I would be happy to see the target expanded beyond just France, but there’s no need to be snarky about it not being the case right now.

Re: Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline

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Post by zellyn »

bluedino wrote: post #121
mikae1 wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Europe should be making industry-leading apps. Europe should produce software startups that make products that get used worldwide. I've kind of lost hope when it comes to commercial services and proprietary apps. They're sadly all sooner or later enshittified. We need something different, not by promises but by design (FOSS). > EU subsidized clones of popular American products feels like admitting defeat. I think i…

I can't think of too many apps that I use that are truly FOSS. Databases, compilers/interpreters, web servers, operating systems...but apps? (Other than gnu/bad command line tools of course)

For me: Emacs, NetNewsWire, Gimp, Inkscape, Calibre, Firefox, Chrome, occasionally VS Code, very occasionally whatever Audacity is called today.

And I’m a Mac user!

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