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Re: Casual Viewing – Why Netflix looks like that

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Post by magicalhippo »

strogonoff wrote: post #68
fabioborellini wrote: post #46

My wife considers “show, don’t tell” shows confusing and just bad. More dialogue, better the show. She chooses to watch shows in which characters address each other with full names and say their intentions out loud. My brain hurts.

One of my favourite films is called Upstream Color. Below is not a spoiler, but I like to avoid reading anything about a good film before watching it, and I recommend to do the same here. You like it or you don’t. This film has no staged speech that tries to explain anything. The little dialogue that it has is what would naturally arise given the situation. For the same reason, most characters have no names or no ful…

I enjoyed Upstream Color a lot as well, but yeah it's certainly not for everyone.

And agreed on not being spoon fed.

A prime example to the contrary was when in the Joker, spoiler alert, they had a recap showing his delusion. The movie would have been so much better if they had cut that entire segment, and just have the neighbor female act all surprised and weirded out like she did when he entered the apartment.

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Post by relaxing »

technothrasher wrote: post #131
CoastalCoder wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm curious if heavy pornography consumption has become so prevalent that men care less about getting that thrill from feature films.

I wouldn't describe myself as a "heavy pornography consumer", but I certainly get bored by the gratuitous sex scenes in many shows and movies these days, thinking, "I can get this and much more any time I want, so can we stop with it and move the plot and/or character development along please?"

You’re meant to be watching it with a romantic partner, “and chill”-style.

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Post by xnx »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #151
SunlitCat wrote: post #2

Oof. What's next? Announcing what they see? What items are around them and how they could interact with them (or not)? Like "Protagonist: I walked north and I entered a mysterious room, full of different bottles. They don't look like I could use them, but maybe I should take one with me?"

The Mandalorian, oh my lawd, the dialogue was just narrative explanation. Just terrible. Terribly terrible.

Covering the main character's face in a helmet isn't great for drama.

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Post by soulofmischief »

strogonoff wrote: post #68
fabioborellini wrote: post #46

My wife considers “show, don’t tell” shows confusing and just bad. More dialogue, better the show. She chooses to watch shows in which characters address each other with full names and say their intentions out loud. My brain hurts.

One of my favourite films is called Upstream Color. Below is not a spoiler, but I like to avoid reading anything about a good film before watching it, and I recommend to do the same here. You like it or you don’t. This film has no staged speech that tries to explain anything. The little dialogue that it has is what would naturally arise given the situation. For the same reason, most characters have no names or no ful…

If you enjoyed Upstream Color, I highly recommend checking out Carruth's previous project, Primer, if you haven't already. It's a movie that takes a dozen rewatches to make full sense of. Natural dialogue, organic cinematography, and no hand-holding.

Upstream Color was a great movie as well, it's a shame what happened between Carruth and Amy Seimetz.

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Post by scotty79 »

kleiba wrote: post #12
rich_sasha wrote: post #11

I find it very stressful when watching Netflix because I don't know what is going to happen. Maybe they could include the full story line at the start of the series, so I can read it ahead of time and remove all suspense and surprise.

True, but plots are only half the story. I'd be very grateful if they could give me some sample scenes (ideally automatically, so I don't have to go through the trouble of starting them every single time). I mean, how do people even decide whether a movie might be for them without having first inspected a good portion of it?

That's where piracy shines. You can scrub freely. You can watch 2 seasons in an afternoon just skimming.

You can award the content exactly as much time as it deserves according to you.

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Post by keiferski »

relaxing wrote: post #164
keiferski wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure what you mean by families, but I would be willing to bet that most families today already let their children watch more YouTube family content than Netflix content. And I do believe Netflix introduced a cheaper ad tier recently?

Every parent I know forbids Youtube, for obvious reasons. Even the content on the Kids service is utter crap (I know several who tried the service and dropped it.)

The app has 2.5 million reviews and 131 million downloads, so it is obviously used by a lot of parents.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1251942/global-youtube-k...

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Post by delecti »

slfnflctd wrote: post #107
kleiba wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

True, but plots are only half the story. I'd be very grateful if they could give me some sample scenes (ideally automatically, so I don't have to go through the trouble of starting them every single time). I mean, how do people even decide whether a movie might be for them without having first inspected a good portion of it?

It's weird to me how the first two replies to this comment completely missed the sarcasm. Do we need to start using the "/s" tag here like became necessary on reddit? I don't like the thought, but maybe it's a different issue in this case-- more of a non-native-English or on-the-spectrum thing than an inexperienced teenager thing? I hope so.

> It's weird to me how [...]

Counterpoint, it's weird to me to be surprised to encounter a problem when you knowingly avoid preventing that problem.

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Post by KineticLensman »

ndsipa_pomu wrote: post #128
egeozcan wrote: post #82

You can't do 100% "show, don't tell" unless your movie is 15 hours long. It's always about balance, and it's probably one of the hardest challenges in scriptwriting and directing. Netflix movies have always leaned more toward the "tell" side, and this feels like an open acknowledgment of it. Small digression: Turkish series have been doing an extreme version of "telling" for ages. I've been watching the cheesiest one…

> You can't do 100% "show, don't tell" unless your movie is 15 hours long You most certainly can, though it relies on trusting the audience. Flow (2024) Sasquatch Sunset (2024) Hundreds of Beavers (2022)

> Hundreds of Beavers (2022)

Hundreds of Beavers! So pleased that someone else here has seen this awesome film

Re: Casual Viewing – Why Netflix looks like that

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Post by strogonoff »

soulofmischief wrote: post #184
strogonoff wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of my favourite films is called Upstream Color. Below is not a spoiler, but I like to avoid reading anything about a good film before watching it, and I recommend to do the same here. You like it or you don’t. This film has no staged speech that tries to explain anything. The little dialogue that it has is what would naturally arise given the situation. For the same reason, most characters have no names or no ful…

If you enjoyed Upstream Color, I highly recommend checking out Carruth's previous project, Primer, if you haven't already. It's a movie that takes a dozen rewatches to make full sense of. Natural dialogue, organic cinematography, and no hand-holding. Upstream Color was a great movie as well, it's a shame what happened between Carruth and Amy Seimetz.

Seen Primer first, though it’s 100% due a rewatch. I think it lacks certain poetry that Upstream Color has.

I don’t know if we should denounce the art if the artist turns out to be a bad person in some ways, previously had some thoughts about it but forgot what they were. Maybe the answer is “we should if we know about it”. However, no person is unchanging, and by that logic the person who creates the art is not the same entity as the person who does bad things, unless it happens in close enough proximity or relation to each other.

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Post by gilleain »

mst wrote: post #144
slfnflctd wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's weird to me how the first two replies to this comment completely missed the sarcasm. Do we need to start using the "/s" tag here like became necessary on reddit? I don't like the thought, but maybe it's a different issue in this case-- more of a non-native-English or on-the-spectrum thing than an inexperienced teenager thing? I hope so.

Being English-as-in-UK I often run into situations where my dry/sarcastic humour completely fails to be clear to USians. Then again from the UK POV the leftpondians barely count as native English speakers anyway ;)

Hmm. As a born Britisher I used to have this attitude until I read 'Mother Tongue' by Bill Bryson. He's an American who moved to the UK and has a good handle on the differences between American and British english.
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