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Re: Casual Viewing – Why Netflix looks like that

#101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try doing chores for multiple people, hours a day, years on end, first. I’m guessing you haven’t done that, or you wouldn’t suggest that people who like having a little entertainment while doing chores have a form of ADHD.

What a strange interpretation of what they said.

What interpretation did you have?

Re: Casual Viewing – Why Netflix looks like that

#102

You can't do 100% "show, don't tell" unless your movie is 15 hours long. It's always about balance, and it's probably one of the hardest challenges in scriptwriting and directing. Netflix movies have always leaned more toward the "tell" side, and this feels like an open acknowledgment of it. Small digression: Turkish series have been doing an extreme version of "telling" for ages. I've been watching the cheesiest one…

>Small digression: Turkish series have been doing an extreme version of "telling" for ages.

From a european perspective that is what US TV series and movies have been doing for 4 decades already as well as following the very same mechanics. In most shows you can tell in advance what is about to happen next at any point in time this is embarassing. I used to think US people had to be super dumb for that reason then realized they gradually started doing it on euro stuff. I guess we just use the lowest baseline possible because the people who spend the most time passively i front of a screen happen to also be the dumbest ones.

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post #87

It’s just slop par excellence. I’ve been watching a number of movies with my wife over Christmas. Everything is so bland, repetitive and ‘design by committee’. It goes further than merely announcing what the characters are doing (in that new wannabe Die Hard movie we hear that they are expecting a baby three times in 5 minutes), you just know there are certain metrics used for every genre of movie accounting for ever…

Let's be real here look at the movies that make a billion at the box office. It's never the highbrow stuff.

Highbrow and soulless are different axes. Disney may be a giant soulless company, but they do employ actual artists who sometimes make decent movies which in general do vastly better at the box office.

Handing a talented team enough time, freedom, and budget doesn’t guarantee success but it’s definitely a prerequisite for success.

Re: Casual Viewing – Why Netflix looks like that

#105
I watched the Netflix series Black Doves recently, nine episodes of fairly entertaining stuff, followed by a final episode of full-on Basil Exposition with characters literally explaining what happened in the previous episodes like the reveal at the end of Scooby-Doo. I've mostly given up on Netflix for exactly this kind of dumbing down.

Re: Casual Viewing – Why Netflix looks like that

#106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What interpretation did you have?

That you're having ""ADHD"" toward the show, not that you have it by wanting a show.

Well then the comment chain was clearer to you than me, because I read the last two comments as 1) a defense of watching shows while doing chores and 2) a criticism of doing that, implying that it’s a lack of focus on doing the chore

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#107
post #12

I find it very stressful when watching Netflix because I don't know what is going to happen. Maybe they could include the full story line at the start of the series, so I can read it ahead of time and remove all suspense and surprise.

True, but plots are only half the story. I'd be very grateful if they could give me some sample scenes (ideally automatically, so I don't have to go through the trouble of starting them every single time). I mean, how do people even decide whether a movie might be for them without having first inspected a good portion of it?

It's weird to me how the first two replies to this comment completely missed the sarcasm.

Do we need to start using the "/s" tag here like became necessary on reddit? I don't like the thought, but maybe it's a different issue in this case-- more of a non-native-English or on-the-spectrum thing than an inexperienced teenager thing? I hope so.

Re: Casual Viewing – Why Netflix looks like that

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post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly. The one example they use gets a 5.2 on IMDB and 42% on rotten tomatoes. Not all movies are high art, nor should they be. It’s for a certain audience. We’ve had crappy made-for-TV movies since long before streaming and it hasn’t been the death of cinema.

42% means that some professional critics considered it “fresh.” That’s scary to me.

To be fair to the professional critics, they are writing prose that helps their readers decide if they will like a movie, not just giving it a good/bad review. Looking at the reviews that RT considers fresh, most of them are honest with their readers about what the movie is (“hallmark”, “formulaic”), but consider it a watchable entry in that genre.

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/irish_wish/reviews

Re: Casual Viewing – Why Netflix looks like that

#109

It’s just slop par excellence. I’ve been watching a number of movies with my wife over Christmas. Everything is so bland, repetitive and ‘design by committee’. It goes further than merely announcing what the characters are doing (in that new wannabe Die Hard movie we hear that they are expecting a baby three times in 5 minutes), you just know there are certain metrics used for every genre of movie accounting for ever…

Honestly I can't blame them if current audiences have the attention span of a puppy golden retriever The one use case I wanted to see for AI is "tunable" contexts for videos. If this is your first time, watch the whole thing but if you need less context just edit it so it skips over the obvious parts

That is actually an idea for AI in movie making that I could get behind.

I don't think it's possible yet by a very very very long shot but if it were it would be a better idea than "write your own movies".

My stories probably suck outside a captive, very young and related "audience" which is fine because I'm not script writer.

But I would pay quite a lot of money for a "get to the point" button.

Re: Casual Viewing – Why Netflix looks like that

#110

It’s just slop par excellence. I’ve been watching a number of movies with my wife over Christmas. Everything is so bland, repetitive and ‘design by committee’. It goes further than merely announcing what the characters are doing (in that new wannabe Die Hard movie we hear that they are expecting a baby three times in 5 minutes), you just know there are certain metrics used for every genre of movie accounting for ever…

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