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Leaving Neovim for Zed

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Re: Leaving Neovim for Zed

#181
post #12

I initially loved Zed. But as their focus has shifted to building Collaboration & AI features, and still haven’t yet nailed just being a good/great base editor, its become less useful to me. I still have a lot of hope for Zed. But for the time being, I’ve switched back to my old editor & IDE … and I’ll try Zed again at a much later date.

This. I don't need voice chat features in a terminal based text editor.

Re: Leaving Neovim for Zed

#182

> Every now and then I would update a plugin in Neovim and everything would break, and I would have to spend time fixing it instead of getting work done. This is true, but only if you're not using one of the ready made distributions. I didn't switch to NeoVim until I discovered LazyVim and this amazing guide https://lazyvim-ambitious-devs.phillips.codes/ . That changed everything. I just use LazyVim out of the box, a…

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Re: Leaving Neovim for Zed

#183
post #107

I don't really care about evangelising anything, but this bit: > Every now and then I would update a plugin in Neovim and everything would break, and I would have to spend time fixing it instead of getting work done. Would be a problem anywhere there is a plugin system. Just don't go around updating kitchen sink without having the ability to rollback. Full on version controlling 3rd party plugins could be annoying (u…

Neovims most popular plugin manager lazy.nvim supports this (and I'm sure most other too).

Re: Leaving Neovim for Zed

#184
post #6
post #5

I’ve also recently switched (largely) from Vim to Zed and I also think that Zed is in many ways great. At the same time it’s been pretty frustrating to use an editor that is spending so much time building AI integrations, REPLs, and so fourth when basic things like cut and paste and common Vim motions still have so many bugs. I’d love to see them prioritize getting the basics solid first.

Yeah I feel the same way. The fact that Zed uses the system clipboard as the default register in vim mode, for instance, made it impossible to use in practice for me -- having every yank replace my clipboard was a bit of a nightmare!

You can have multiple things saved on your clipboard at once.

Re: Leaving Neovim for Zed

#185
post #103

"It just works" is precisely why I use Jetbrains products. I'm amazed they are not that common in many developer communities. They are amazing tools.

Webstorm kept crashing and grinding to a halt on my codebase. Vscode and neovim didn't have that issue so that's what I use now.

Re: Leaving Neovim for Zed

#187

I’m going to somehow misuse this discussion to ask for the readership help about something: I don’t understand the appeal of VSCode or more exactly I don’t understand the appeal of the text editor propped with plugins to be a semi-IDE so I guess that would also include Neovim with plugins. In my career, I have used text editors including vim which I still very much enjoy and both Eclipse and IntelliJ when I used to c…

Takes very little time to configure, new languages work with LSP in a few seconds, support for headless neovim, nice gui with good font rendering in macos, decent git integration, window management is good and can be customised to use vim bindings.

Pretty much does everything you would want whereas I have a bunch of problems with emacs and neovim that stop me using them full time. Ideally I'd use emacs but it has performance issues with my giant typescript codebase I work onfor my job.

Re: Leaving Neovim for Zed

#188

I started using Zed in the last month and I had a feeling it would end up taking a lot of Neovim users. Neovim gets a lot of users who need better performance than VSCode, like me, but the config is such a pain and there was a gap in the market for a blazingly fast GUI editor which Zed looks like filling. Supermaven still has some issues on Zed, but apart from that its been rock solid and ive fully switched from Neov…

I would love a modern Emacs with a better modern GUI similar to Zeds.

Re: Leaving Neovim for Zed

#189
There is one big issue with terminal editors that I keep running up against: single font size. One notable place where this is an issue is file listings, being able to have smaller proportional fonts makes a huge difference in usability.

I have switched to Zed, but it sadly shares more in common with vscode than it does vim. I believe the ideal text editor would bring a small amount of GUI to the general idea of one of the popular nvim distros (especially telescope).

Re: Leaving Neovim for Zed

#190
post #41

Most of the negatives mentioned (fragility, bugs, plugins breaking often) are specific to neovim. It's one of the reasons why I am and will always keep using vim instead of neovim. Vim is a much more mature ecosystem, less chasing the newest "plugin du jour", my vimrc is stable, based on a few dozen plugins which are feature complete and rock solid stable.

You don't have to chase plugins with either Vim or Neovim you know? You can even use the same Vim plugins in Neovim if you wanted to.

It's true that Neovim leans more towards more changes and thus more risk of bugs, but claiming that Neovim is unstable is unfounded.

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