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Anxious brains redirect emotion regulation

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ajani wrote: post #174
otikik wrote: post #137

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> Physics can't deal with the brain. No equation can be written. There are many many many physics simulations out there that cannot be "written with an equation". Climate Modelling, for example. You cannot write a single equation to model all that. You need a big complex piece of software, made of many equations, a lot of hardware, and a lot of processing time. Any of those was simply inconceivable mere decades ago.…

All climate models are based on mathematical physics models. I don't know the specifics, so I asked chatGPT and here is what it said: ''' Climate modeling is a multifaceted field rooted in physics that relies on a complex set of equations to describe various atmospheric, oceanic, and terrestrial processes. Here's an overview of the key equations that form the foundation of climate models: Navier-Stokes Equations: Gov…

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Post by nonbirithm »

Aurornis wrote: post #107
riazrizvi wrote: post #76

So, heightened anxiety triggers alternate emotional regulation, with traits like pro-avoidance behavior. To me this is not necessarily dysfunctional. It may also go hand-in-hand with motivating heightened deliberation. I can see how one can fall into regressive patterns like distracting ourselves away from critical path actions, especially if a particular person only uses one of two strategies, 1) try going on as bef…

> To me this is not necessarily dysfunctional. If it wasn’t dysfunctional, it wouldn’t be a diagnosed with mental health condition to begin with. I think this is a concept that is getting lost in mainstream mental health discourse: There is a big difference between anxiety the emotion and anxiety the mental health disorder . Similar story for depression and concentration struggles. It’s normal to feel anxious at time…

> They will go through phases where they become convinced, often by TikTok or Reddit, that they have ADHD, anxiety, and/or depression because they aren’t perfect robots who do marathon study sessions with a smile every day.

I was struggling to put a name to this phenomenon but I recently learned about the term "semantic contagion" as coined by Ian Hacking. There is an article I found interesting that speculates the rise of a rare disorder with the proliferation of the Internet in the 1990s.

I think the idea that an influx of readily available information can confuse people with tempting theories or misinterpretation is more relevant than ever today.

https://archive.is/OsvZ6

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Post by OkayPhysicist »

elwell wrote: post #161
xtiansimon wrote: post #111

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> “Like driving a car as a learner your whole life, I remember the first driving lesson I had, I couldn't even focus with the radio on.” This reminded me of starting to ride a motorcycle (again) in 2021. Lots of anxiety and stress. Two years later I’m not as stressed. But, each near-accident I’ve had was following not paying attention. Thinking about this on a ride over the weekend, I mused about solo-jet fighter pil…

> realizing failure is not life threatening That doesn't hold true when it comes to riding a motorcycle though. Maybe the fear is warranted.

"Fear is the mind killer". Focus spent worrying about the potential consequences of failure is focus not spent on avoiding failure altogether.

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Post by nick__m »

abarkasxa wrote: post #19

have agoraphobia pretty bad. I've spent so much time trying to work on exposure, but then I'll have a huge panic attack, I don't have access to my frontal cortex to reason through it, during this time I'm feeling the immensity of the universe, I feel electricity running through my body, at the end of it all when I get somewhere "safe" I'm not able to think straight or sleep well for months. So yeah the impulse to avo…

find someone who prescribe propranolol, it makes exposure therapy a lot easier and the result are more durable.

here's some reference: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4820039/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4818733/ ...

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Post by mrguyorama »

jassyr wrote: post #170
petesergeant wrote: post #80

If you suffer from anxiety, and haven't tried any of the following yet, worth giving a go: escitalopram (with medical supervision, also 10mg did nothing for me, 20mg was life changing), ingesting silexan / lavendar oil, L-Theanine with your coffee, less coffee, less alcohol, propanalol (see a dr) instead of benzos for break-through anxiety, ashwagandha.

I second escitalopram. 10mg changed my life.

It's really a roll of the dice. My mother was scared of me getting on Escitalopram because it gave her panic attacks but it was literally a silver bullet from me. 10mg a day turns me from a broken brain to a mostly normal human brain. It's such a lightswitch effect that sometimes I wonder if I'm overselling it to myself, and then I forget to get my prescription refilled for a couple days and I can feel that anxiety creeping back in from the edges, trying to make it's insidious way back into my life, and then I remember why I take it.

My understanding is that each SSRI type med has a roughly 30% chance of working for you, though the odds are slightly connected for SSRIs that are similar.

If only the ADHD was as easy.

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Post by huimang »

OkayPhysicist wrote: post #183
elwell wrote: post #161

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> realizing failure is not life threatening That doesn't hold true when it comes to riding a motorcycle though. Maybe the fear is warranted.

"Fear is the mind killer". Focus spent worrying about the potential consequences of failure is focus not spent on avoiding failure altogether.

Failure in this case ranges from life-altering disabilities or death outright. The emotional toll on your friends and family. The waste of medical resources on you.

Yeah, people should have a healthy amount of fear for needlessly dangerous things.

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Post by ajani »

otikik wrote: post #178
ajani wrote: post #174

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All climate models are based on mathematical physics models. I don't know the specifics, so I asked chatGPT and here is what it said: ''' Climate modeling is a multifaceted field rooted in physics that relies on a complex set of equations to describe various atmospheric, oceanic, and terrestrial processes. Here's an overview of the key equations that form the foundation of climate models: Navier-Stokes Equations: Gov…

Well you should have asked ChatGPT directly then: In the context of human behavior, consciousness and neurology, what are the mathematical equations that are relevant in order to model how a human brain works? Please highlight any equation that involves Physics in particular ChatGPT: Modeling the human brain is an extremely complex task, and it involves various levels of abstraction and different mathematical and com…

> While there are no specific equations that fully capture the intricacies of the brain's function..

That.

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Post by OkayPhysicist »

huimang wrote: post #186
OkayPhysicist wrote: post #183

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"Fear is the mind killer". Focus spent worrying about the potential consequences of failure is focus not spent on avoiding failure altogether.

Failure in this case ranges from life-altering disabilities or death outright. The emotional toll on your friends and family. The waste of medical resources on you. Yeah, people should have a healthy amount of fear for needlessly dangerous things.

The time for thinking about that is before you get on a bike. Once you're going down the highway, fretting about what-ifs does not help you.

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Post by JumpinJack_Cash »

NayamAmarshe wrote: post #5

It's always fear, isn't it? We're afraid to approach people, afraid to ask for help, afraid that someone might react in the worst possible way or something really bad might happen. But obviously, it never happens the way we imagine. Reality is 100% of the time, different from our imagination and yet, many of us still fail to remember that. Every good opportunity that I ever got, was from me coming out of my comfort z…

> > afraid that someone might react in the worst possible way or something really bad might happen.

That type of anxiety is easily beaten, the one where the worry is that ‘not the best thing ever happens’ is much harder to beat

Kinda like ‘if you ain’t first you’re last mentality’ and opportunity cost type thing

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Post by chaostheory »

OkayPhysicist wrote: post #188
huimang wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Failure in this case ranges from life-altering disabilities or death outright. The emotional toll on your friends and family. The waste of medical resources on you. Yeah, people should have a healthy amount of fear for needlessly dangerous things.

The time for thinking about that is before you get on a bike. Once you're going down the highway, fretting about what-ifs does not help you.

Hence, the warranted fear. It’s not a “failed response” in that case
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