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Re: Intel's GPU Drivers Now Collect Telemetry, Including 'How You Use Your Computer'

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Post by shrimp_emoji » Thu, Aug 10, 2023, 7:29 PM UTC

Espionage724 wrote: post #180

JohnFen wrote: post #178

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I know quite a few Linux users, and not all of them are computer nerds (and none of them use Arch or are part of some small niche group). I'd say about 1/3 of them use Gnome, 1/3 use KDE, and 1/3 use something other than those two. In general, it seems that those who are used to Windows get along better with KDE. > KDE should stop assisting with fragmenting Linux Having a selection of DEs to choose from is not "fragm…

The fragment part comes from KDE nor GNOME coming close to the efficiency of DWM and Windows Explorer. DWM and Explorer have low-latency, good hardware-acceleration, and power efficiency down to a T. GNOME 44 isn't on-par. I haven't heard anyone ever compliment KDE in these regards recently and back when I last tried it when Plasma 5 was relatively new it also wasn't up-to-par. More work should go towards making thes…

The only way to make Linux DEs (at least on X11 -- I've never tried Wayland) as smooth as Windows 10's DE, I've found, is to disable composition. And KDE is the only DE I know of that lets you disable composition (yet another reason it's awesome). ;p

You lose transparency and animations, but the smoooooothness is amazing (and it even extends to games)!

I don't recall how smooth Windows 7 or Vista felt, but my conspiracy theory is that Windows lost all that Aero transparency IN ORDER to be so smooth (but that's probably apocryphal).

Nevertheless, Windows's DE and platform limitations are still horrible compared to Linux with KDE. :D As for Mac, that's tantamount to GNOME, so to me it's not worth considering as a contending GUI.

Re: Intel's GPU Drivers Now Collect Telemetry, Including 'How You Use Your Computer'

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Post by acqq » Thu, Aug 10, 2023, 10:33 PM UTC

Dah00n wrote: post #126

varispeed wrote: post #11

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I wonder what are those categories and if Intel knows something we don't know. For instance, this information will be useful for the coming implementation of CBDC in various countries and form a basis of social credit score. Intel will probably make a ton of money by selling this information to governments.

Nvidia would likely have much better data to sell as they have collected data for years.

Do you know, do all their drivers do this or only some? And how can this be seen?

Re: Intel's GPU Drivers Now Collect Telemetry, Including 'How You Use Your Computer'

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Post by dylmarcor » Fri, Aug 11, 2023, 4:24 AM UTC

landemva wrote: post #133

smoldesu wrote: post #121

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Well, be careful how you word it. At the core of the problem, nobody has control over their devices. If you beat a drum complaining about Nvidia having DMA access then you have to go after Apple and Microsoft next, which would probably lead to most people getting confused. If they found out about PRISM or XKeyscore, they would probably feel hopeless and give up. Treating privacy in the abstract is how you help people…

> how you help people meaningfully resist it. Poison the data wells to such an extent that data becomes unuseful. For hardware drivers, submitting plausible or random info may be a good start. For handset apps which send geolocation, developer mode which spoofs a city circle tour may be a good start.

Reminds me of what AdNauseum was doing. I like this tactic.

Re: Intel's GPU Drivers Now Collect Telemetry, Including 'How You Use Your Computer'

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Post by Dah00n » Fri, Aug 11, 2023, 10:27 PM UTC

acqq wrote: post #182

Dah00n wrote: post #126

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Nvidia would likely have much better data to sell as they have collected data for years.

Do you know, do all their drivers do this or only some? And how can this be seen?

GeForce Experience has telemetry, but I can't tell you if the driver packages from Nvidia has any. There's a Disable-Nvidia-Telemetry tool, but I can't say I know anything about it (I use AMD).

https://github.com/NateShoffner/Disable-Nvidia-Telemetry/rel...