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Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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jjulius wrote: post #106
paulddraper wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't seem dishonest to me. Reddit cares more about having an open subreddit then the mods do. This was the obvious conclusion

GP already highlighted the dishonesty, it's here: > if they are no longer interested in moderating that community The mods, as GP stated, are interested in moderating that community, they just disagree with Reddit's changes. They wouldn't be taking the path of shuttering their subs in protest if they didn't give a damn. That is absolutely dishonesty on the part of Reddit.

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Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by jjulius »

ryanmerket wrote: post #173
jjulius wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GP already highlighted the dishonesty, it's here: > if they are no longer interested in moderating that community The mods, as GP stated, are interested in moderating that community, they just disagree with Reddit's changes. They wouldn't be taking the path of shuttering their subs in protest if they didn't give a damn. That is absolutely dishonesty on the part of Reddit.

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Christian isn't the only person with a dog in this fight, and none of what you just said at all negates Reddit's dishonesty throughout this entire situation.

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by Vanclief »

Unfortunate, but it was pretty obvious this would happen. The blackouts lasting only 48 hours was a mistake anyways. The only way I see them changing course is if enough people:

1. Delete the official app

2. Stop buying reddit awards, subscriptions, etc.

3. Mass delete their comments (Ideally after backing them up so that they can restore them later)

4. Stop visiting reddit all together

From reddit, this could easily be solved by offering "Reddit Pro", where you pay X per month, get perks and gives you an API key that you can use in any third app you like. Everyone is happy.

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by ulrashida »

satvikpendem wrote: post #128
Panzer04 wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Worth noting many subs actively voted for the shutdown. It's very much a case-by-case basis. Also, shitting on your userbase only works for so long. You keep consuming people's trust and you eventually reach a tipping point where people are actively looking to move to alternatives. It would not surprise me if there is a sudden exodus if a suitable alternative to reddit became clear. I don't understand why reddit has…

Just as in real life, voting may not be representative of the whole story. Selection bias can occur where people who care very much about a topic would vote for it while most casual users won't even care enough to vote. The polls I've seen on Reddit are a vast minority of overall votes compared to the subreddit size in subscribers, keeping in mind that many lurkers also don't even directly subscribe to a sub but may…

At the end of the day, if you don't care enough to participate you are obliged to accept the outcome that results. If you don't like the results, it's time to participate, continue to watch, or pack up.

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by Avamander »

mvdtnz wrote: post #104

Reddit would be right to remove these moderators. This protest does nothing for the users of Reddit. Why would they maintain a website of derelict communities when there's a clear and obvious alternative?

Huh? The protest is to make it possible to keep things working. It's bizarre to see the amount of complaining about mods making or breaking a sub and then at the same time the amount of people calling their actions impactless or leading to derelict communities. Which is it? Do users and Reddit need them or do they not?

The only option after fucking over volunteers is that Reddit can start paying people to moderate and keep their platform working. Give it to someone else willing? Good luck with that. Hand your house keys to a stranger, you're gonna love the new interior design.

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by ulrashida »

unclekev wrote: post #155
yk wrote: post #18

Thing is, I am much more loyal to the mods of my favorite subs, then I'm to reddit. And my guess is, that is the case with a lot of the power users.

9 out of 10 days most Reddit mods are considered the scum of the earth, it's a literal meme at this point how bad a lot of them are. They are the heroes this week because it fits their narrative. Censorship, power-tripping, running subs with a iron fist, etc Nobody knows or cares who they are. As much as they'd like to think they are, the mods are not the community. The community is the people. The people are not the…

Sounds like you may need to find some different subs to participate in. Majority of experiences with mods in mine have been between very okay and positive.

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by dannyphantom »

I suppose this will be a litmus test on how valuable long-established moderators are to the platform.

At the end of the day, they are volunteers who are now boarding themselves behind the property of their digital landlord so the risk of eviction isn't really all that surprising.

I've seen endless complaints from users who feel personally offended by being muted/banned from a community and a common response to their complaints is "if you don't like it, go to another site". If the moderators are not happy with the direction of the platform, they are free to vacate the property willingly or have an admin spend :30s removing them.

The relationship has always been unilateral in favor of the people who actually work there.

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