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Re: Russia killed its tech industry

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I lived in a small Sanctuary city with double the crime rate than New York city which, in itself has skyrocketed. 1 in 143 chance of being victim of a violent crime besides the terrible stuff that goes on in the schools. Drug and Prostitution cartels run everything and get no jail time. Burglary statistic is 1 in 43. Shoplifting is a career. Nobody stops them from walking in and just taking because the state will jus…

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Re: Russia killed its tech industry

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As a MSU CS alumni I can tell you, it is pretty clear the brighter, the more likely to leave. Among my peers most left, even the ones that used to be relatively pro Puilo for whatever reasons.

> As a MSU CS alumni I can tell you, it is pretty clear the brighter, the more likely to leave. How does your alumni status’ anecdotal evidence bring clarity on the matter of the predominant intellectual capacity of those who’re leaving Russia? Aren’t there any other MSU graduates who consider themselves as bright as your CS peers and yourself, and who are staying in? What’s the respective left/stayed ratio among the…

I can add one more data point to it as MIPT graduate. Number of people among MIPT, MSU and HSE graduates I know personally who emigrated in the past 12 months is remarkable. It’s somewhat similar to early 1990s when whole labs were relocating to the West.

Re: Russia killed its tech industry

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Every single of the innovations the OP listed was attained under "the bolshevist/communistic terror system". Prior to the 1917 Revolution, Imperial Russia was an Agricultural backwater that was widely derided as the least industrialized part of Europe. Honest question: Don't they teach history in school these days? The level of ignorance displayed in some of the comments in this thread is staggering.

Hilarious. Are you advocating the Soviet Union was a progressive nation?

I understand. You literally don't know what else to say, so you have to at least attempt to say something that you think might sound witty. A real pity.

And yes, compared to Imperial Russia that was a Near-Absolute Monarchy with an Hereditary Emperor whose imperial style/form of address was "Emperor and Autocrat of All the Russias" the Soviet Union was a beacon of progressiveness.

Re: Russia killed its tech industry

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where the state governments aren't behaving any better than Putin This is an insane thing to say. He is devastating an entire country. There are 354,000 people dead already. What is your evidence? https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-war-already-wit...

Also, you are citing numbers of war casualties. I am not referring to Putin's war agenda, I am refering to his state agenda that affects the society at large, aside from the war.

Re: Russia killed its tech industry

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where the state governments aren't behaving any better than Putin This is an insane thing to say. He is devastating an entire country. There are 354,000 people dead already. What is your evidence? https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-war-already-wit...

I lived in a small Sanctuary city with double the crime rate than New York city which, in itself has skyrocketed. 1 in 143 chance of being victim of a violent crime besides the terrible stuff that goes on in the schools. Drug and Prostitution cartels run everything and get no jail time. Burglary statistic is 1 in 43. Shoplifting is a career. Nobody stops them from walking in and just taking because the state will jus…

New York city which, in itself has skyrocketed

No it hasn't

Drug and Prostitution cartels run everything and get no jail time.

No they don't

The end result is businesses close an society and culture break down to ghetto status.

This has not happened

Stop soaking up whatever propaganda you are hooked into and realize that an entire country is being destroyed and cities are being reduced to rubble. If you think about it more you might decide teenagers stealing from walgreens is not the same as hundreds of thousands already being dead and millions of people with their live shattered.

Re: Russia killed its tech industry

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The elephant in the room is how many of those Russian programmers who run away from Russia are FSB / GRU assets. Even if they are not spies, their parents or grandparents are probably still in Russia, so the state has methods to blackmail them into spying.

Yep. Same tricks that the CCP plays on it's population.

Re: Russia killed its tech industry

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I'm not sure if you count the US as developed or not, but in case you do, here are some highlights more recently than "a century or two ago": - Haditha massacre - Mahmudiyah rape and killings - Abu Ghraib prison - Enhanced interrogation techniques - Sơn Thắng massacre - Countless of others All by US officials and/or military members.

Obviously unfortunate, but tiny, isolated and unintended incidents. Handful of victims. Widely condemned by the society. Meanwhile, Russia is bombing countries and killing millions as a strategy of conquest, while most Russian are clapping approvingly.

I'm not sure if "killing millions" is on purpose a exaggeration or not, but again, Russia is not alone in doing killing and bombing as a strategy (civilians be damned), the US is very familiar with that strategy. Do you think the initial night raid on Iraq was only targeting military targets? They were dropping random bombs on Baghdad. Multiple campaigns of Vietnam were just dropping a ton of bombs all over the country, no matter who it hit (Look up "Christmas bombings").

And lastly, don't forget about the only nuclear bombs that have been dropped have been dropped by the US military. That was indiscriminate killing at a scale never seen before, or since.

Look, Russia is horrible, the invasion is super fucked up, I wish they weren't do that and it'll take a long time before I'll ever forget about the horribleness that Russia put others through, as I've personally helped people being received from Ukraine into the country where I currently live. But that doesn't mean other military powers aren't as horrible as Russia, all of them are, it's their purpose so that's what they do.

Re: Russia killed its tech industry

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Actually, Ukraine was forcing an ethnic, language and religious cleansing on its people in the two regions that petitioned for sovereignty. Read about this several years ago before all this stuff blew up and propaganda made stuff murky. Their current leader was put in place by a coup. The old regime was corrupt but that doesn't mean the new one is better. Ukrain was already in a civil war.

By that standard, the UK, Spain and France are also in civil wars. IMHO, once military forces reach rough parity, civil wars should never be a justification for external involvement, because it always ends badly. Internal problems need internal solutions. If Russia and NATO had both stayed out of Ukraine, it would have been better for all Ukrainians. But we zoomed past the Rubicon on that when Crimea was invaded with…

Well, I'm basing my next statement on a statement from an ex military individual from Crimea, but he said that the Crimea business was a backend deal and that the military in Crimea was explicitly ordered to not engage under any circumstance. The Crimea government had no desire to stand. I do agree that Russia and Nato should keep their noses out, but then I also think so should we. Russia being bad guys doesn't make Ukraine good is the point I was trying to make.

Re: Russia killed its tech industry

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I too would like to know. Which "accomplishments of the residents" did the USSR steal? There should honestly be a way to ban idiots like you from HN.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Korolev

you should read the page you linked

Re: Russia killed its tech industry

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Obviously unfortunate, but tiny, isolated and unintended incidents. Handful of victims. Widely condemned by the society. Meanwhile, Russia is bombing countries and killing millions as a strategy of conquest, while most Russian are clapping approvingly.

I'm not sure if "killing millions" is on purpose a exaggeration or not, but again, Russia is not alone in doing killing and bombing as a strategy (civilians be damned), the US is very familiar with that strategy. Do you think the initial night raid on Iraq was only targeting military targets? They were dropping random bombs on Baghdad. Multiple campaigns of Vietnam were just dropping a ton of bombs all over the count…

Oh, since you had to go all the way to the Second World War to find some arguments, here in Eastern Europe we remember too. We remember the grandparents gone to Siberia never to return. The hunger. The Red Army atrocities. The Nomenklatura they left behind. The cleansing of anybody with the "wrong" past or connections. The tinpot dictators they propped up. The “wonders” of communism - more hunger. Chernobyl and atomic war rhetoric. Paying with blood to get rid of them in the 90s. The corruption they left behind. Then Georgia. Polonium tea. Novichok. MH17. Syria. Ukraine.

No, millions is not an exaggeration. It’s an understatement. The only thing we reproach the USA: that they didn’t intervene. They were no angels, but there is no comparison. They are not the same and any attempt to muddle the waters and make them all seem the same is a desperate strategy of a falling imperialist power to throw the blame around. But we are immune to this, we grew up with the KGB monitoring jokes and pillow talk. We know this dirty game and here in Eastern Europe your tricks don’t work anymore. We have eyes to see and we know who are the good guys making the unfortunate occasional mistake and who are the pure evil ones.

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