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Re: Bumble releases open-source A.I. feature to help combat unsolicited nudes

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Post by lm28469 »

yosito wrote: post #130

I was permanently banned from Tinder for trying to upload a picture of myself holding a pepper from my garden. I can only assume that Tinder's AI thought the pepper looked like an unacceptable body part. I am absolutely in favor of using AI to combat unsolicited nudes as long as it's implemented something like: on the sender's side, show a warning before sending that the image appears to be in bad taste and asking fo…

50% of the pictures I upload to discord which contains my hands/fingers are flagged as porn and automatically deleted, it's a major pain in the ass. On the other hand I uploaded artistic nudes a few times with less issues

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Post by formerly_proven »

mschuster91 wrote: post #160
danuker wrote: post #142

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It is not. https://www.marieclaire.com/politics/bumble-now-unsolicited-... > This sending of unsolicited nudes, or cyberflashing, is not only violent and pernicious, it’s entirely without consequences in 49 states.

There are jurisdictions other than the US, you know? Germany, for example, places unsolicited nude photos as a felony [1]. [1] https://www.anwalt.de/rechtstipps/strafanzeige-wegen-des-ver...

184 isn't a highlight of German legislation though. It's one of the many leftovers from the prussian police and justice system, which had a heavy emphasis on morality and decency. 184 for example also criminalizes everyone in Germany who ever uploaded porn to a site that doesn't comply with current youth protection laws (which is all of them, basically).

Re: Bumble releases open-source A.I. feature to help combat unsolicited nudes

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Post by qubex »

sweetheart wrote: post #177
qubex wrote: post #165

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> rare as it might be, there are people of both genders who actually enjoy receiving unsolicited nudes I’m a nudist. I don’t enjoy receiving “unsolicited nudes” but a lot of acquaintances from that zone of my life do send photographs that sometimes depict them undressed in pursuit of whatever activity it is they’re depicting — usually the body in the picture is not the point of the exercise. This just impedes the day…

I get why this would be incredibly annoying to a nudist, but I can’t really see a path forward that works for nudists and non nudists in this context.

Of corse I’m aware that I’m representing a minority concern and I’m well aware that as matters and principles currently stand we’re in a mutually irreconcilable situation. I’m not saying every effort should be abandoned.

I’m just saying that it would be mightily nice if those in decision making positions with regard to these issues and initiatives took the existence of this small and derided demographic into account occasionally.

Re: Bumble releases open-source A.I. feature to help combat unsolicited nudes

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Post by RadixDLT »

yosito wrote: post #130

I was permanently banned from Tinder for trying to upload a picture of myself holding a pepper from my garden. I can only assume that Tinder's AI thought the pepper looked like an unacceptable body part. I am absolutely in favor of using AI to combat unsolicited nudes as long as it's implemented something like: on the sender's side, show a warning before sending that the image appears to be in bad taste and asking fo…

you were holding it the wrong way, take a picture with you taking a bite out of it.

Re: Bumble releases open-source A.I. feature to help combat unsolicited nudes

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Post by dwighttk »

papito wrote: post #127
MerelyMortal wrote: post #98

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"A)" reminds me of a certain Better Off Ted episode. (If anyone here hasn't watched the series, do yourself a favor and do so.)

Better Off Ted had a great premise, but it didn't survive past two seasons because it didn't "click". It was the right idea, but just like with successful shows, certain magic that not even the creators understand has to happen. And it didn't happen here, which is a shame. That said, still a very entertaining show.

Shoulda spun off Phil and Lem

Re: Bumble releases open-source A.I. feature to help combat unsolicited nudes

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Post by capableweb »

sweetheart wrote: post #177
qubex wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> rare as it might be, there are people of both genders who actually enjoy receiving unsolicited nudes I’m a nudist. I don’t enjoy receiving “unsolicited nudes” but a lot of acquaintances from that zone of my life do send photographs that sometimes depict them undressed in pursuit of whatever activity it is they’re depicting — usually the body in the picture is not the point of the exercise. This just impedes the day…

I get why this would be incredibly annoying to a nudist, but I can’t really see a path forward that works for nudists and non nudists in this context.

> but I can’t really see a path forward that works for nudists and non nudists in this context

The very comment thread your comment is in describes a method that would work for both.

> on the sender's side, show a warning before sending that the image appears to be in bad taste and asking for confirmation, then on the receiver's side, hiding the image behind a warning that it may be unwanted and showing two buttons, "show image" and "unmatch".

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33326990

Re: Bumble releases open-source A.I. feature to help combat unsolicited nudes

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Post by sweetheart »

qubex wrote: post #183
sweetheart wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get why this would be incredibly annoying to a nudist, but I can’t really see a path forward that works for nudists and non nudists in this context.

Of corse I’m aware that I’m representing a minority concern and I’m well aware that as matters and principles currently stand we’re in a mutually irreconcilable situation. I’m not saying every effort should be abandoned. I’m just saying that it would be mightily nice if those in decision making positions with regard to these issues and initiatives took the existence of this small and derided demographic into account…

That’s fair!

Re: Bumble releases open-source A.I. feature to help combat unsolicited nudes

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Post by mschuster91 »

formerly_proven wrote: post #182
mschuster91 wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are jurisdictions other than the US, you know? Germany, for example, places unsolicited nude photos as a felony [1]. [1] https://www.anwalt.de/rechtstipps/strafanzeige-wegen-des-ver...

184 isn't a highlight of German legislation though. It's one of the many leftovers from the prussian police and justice system, which had a heavy emphasis on morality and decency. 184 for example also criminalizes everyone in Germany who ever uploaded porn to a site that doesn't comply with current youth protection laws (which is all of them, basically).

Fully agree that the 184 series of StGB is not up to date (e.g. that 17 year olds routinely end up in trouble with the law for sending their partners consensual pictures) and the German youth protection law is ridiculous, but the idea that sending someone unsolicited pornography is bad is a good one IMHO.

Re: Bumble releases open-source A.I. feature to help combat unsolicited nudes

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Post by benj111 »

Kiro wrote: post #134
yosito wrote: post #130

I was permanently banned from Tinder for trying to upload a picture of myself holding a pepper from my garden. I can only assume that Tinder's AI thought the pepper looked like an unacceptable body part. I am absolutely in favor of using AI to combat unsolicited nudes as long as it's implemented something like: on the sender's side, show a warning before sending that the image appears to be in bad taste and asking fo…

Sending unsolicited nudes is a crime so no, it should not be allowed even if there are people who enjoy that stuff.

At what point does a nude become unsolicited though? I mean this is a dating site.

If I put my arm around someone or lean in for a kiss that could be unsolicited but shouldn't be illegal in the context of a date. Similarly dirty talking in a date is different to doing it in the office.

I suppose this could be dealt with through user preferences (don't show nudes/ doesn't appreciate nudes) but the line seems blurred in this situation. It isn't as if you're walking around town in a Mac.

I'm not saying it's ok, but it's not definitely, not ok. People are different, dating is already hard enough without worrying about if you're going to be arrested for trying to get to second base.

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