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In slight defense, if you must hand the keys to the kingdom (or a substantial amount of power) to one person, you can do worse than putting them through a battery of enculturation that reduces their inclination to abuse it. And an effective part of that litmus test could be 'already has substantial power, but is able to self-restrain their abuse of it.' Caligula vs the recent British monarchy, etc.
Is there any evidence that Harvard educated politicians or business leaders behave more ethically than their peers from less prestigious schools?
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#182Earlier quoted context omitted.
But since when is superficial appearance the primary measure of "diversity"?
"Skin color, sex, sexual orientation" all drastically impact an individual's experience in our world. Therefore, having interactions with someone with different varieties thereof increases the diversity of ones experience.
More so than economic, cultural, geographic or domestic factors? Do you have a citation?
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#183Earlier quoted context omitted.
"change things" vs "change things but ostensibly back to the way they were before". For instance, ruling against Roe v. Wade. Regardless of what you think of that, it, such a ruling was a deviation from the status quo. It was "changing things" as surely as the original ruling changed things.
Sure, or "we made a mistake changing things, let's put them back". It just depends on the timescales you consider when determining the status quo.
Putting things back where they were depends on our recollection of the past, which is imperfect and subject to various biases and confusion with myth. But even ignoring that, the circumstances of the present are different than the circumstances of the past so past laws won't work the same in the present as they did in the past. Even if you could perfectly replicate past laws in the present, you couldn't get the same effect out of those laws because the inputs (the state of society) have changed.
Nobody can roll back the clock. What conservatives actually do in fact is propose ways to change things going into the future.
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#184Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sure, or "we made a mistake changing things, let's put them back". It just depends on the timescales you consider when determining the status quo.
Putting things back where they were depends on our recollection of the past, which is imperfect and subject to various biases and confusion with myth. But even ignoring that, the circumstances of the present are different than the circumstances of the past so past laws won't work the same in the present as they did in the past. Even if you could perfectly replicate past laws in the present, you couldn't get the same…
> depends on our recollection of the past, which is imperfect
We do have pretty good records to help us sort it out, especially for recent history.
> the circumstances of the present are different than the circumstances of the past
Surely some circumstances, such as human nature and social biology, have not changed. I'm not sure that "the state of society" is the primary differentiating factor in the effectiveness of laws, particularly laws relating to fundamental human behaviours like violence or reproduction.
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#185Alternate headline: "Colleges that ditched admissions tests have to actually holistically evaluate applicants rather than reduce them to two numbers" No doubt that it's more subjective and more difficult; human beings are complex, multi-dimensional entities and I find it sad that in many of these selection processes, they are reduced to a few numbers for the sake of low effort filtering.
"holistically evaluate applicants" How likely is it that this holistic evaluation will end up preferring individuals conforming to the current Zeitgeist (e.g. using all the momentarily popular buzzwords in their applications) rather than truly talented candidates? Thus contributing to further ossification of current elites?
An academic institution shouldn't only be about picking truly talented candidates; that's the exact opposite of holistic.
My take is that part of the function of an academic institution is to help individuals discover and develop talents.
A good teacher isn't one that helps A students get A's but one that can develop any student into an A student.
To merely select and propel those who already have the talent rather than select for the capacity to grow and develop talent is precisely why score based systems are biased in the first place.
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#186Earlier quoted context omitted.
Fortunately I feel convinced that it's a passing fad. I just hope that the pendulum does not swing too far the other way.
Maybe I'm in a bubble, but every anecdote I read online in the past year or two is someone royally fed up with liberal politics. On Twitter, Reddit, and real life, the majority of people keep complaining about crime, drugs, homelessness. Sounds like a perfect environment for a generation of conservatives to get elected. Hopefully they stay close to the center for a long time.
Thats not exactly how pendulums swing.
Think about how far we have swung in one direction. Its going the same distance in the other. May god help us.
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#187Earlier quoted context omitted.
Fortunately I feel convinced that it's a passing fad. I just hope that the pendulum does not swing too far the other way.
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What does this have to do with being woke?
You said "countries that go to woke" then listed a bunch of horrible things.
The definition of woke is "alert to injustice in society, especially racism."
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#188Earlier quoted context omitted.
Fortunately I feel convinced that it's a passing fad. I just hope that the pendulum does not swing too far the other way.
Maybe I'm in a bubble, but every anecdote I read online in the past year or two is someone royally fed up with liberal politics. On Twitter, Reddit, and real life, the majority of people keep complaining about crime, drugs, homelessness. Sounds like a perfect environment for a generation of conservatives to get elected. Hopefully they stay close to the center for a long time.
I'm angry about the loss of abortion rights federally, the rise of Christian nationalism, politicians lying about election fraud, people calling their enemies pedophiles and communists, politicans not knowing what those words mean, and facism
What is this center you think we are going back to because all I see are far right politicans and the end of American democracy
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#189Earlier quoted context omitted.
What solutions are the conservatives offering to crime, drugs, and homelessness?
Promoting strong family structures and communities. Supporting social norms that dissuade destructive behavior.
I wonder - which Conservative would you look to as a good example to model such behavior and lead the nation?
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#190Earlier quoted context omitted.
> On Twitter, Reddit, and real life, the majority of people keep complaining about crime, drugs, homelessness. Maybe I’m misunderstanding your comment but in the US, these issues are the result of conservative politics.
Which is why there’s so much violent crime in conservative bastions like Philadelphia, Chicago, New York, and Baltimore.
Maybe you should check the crime rate in other cities. Also consider Covid and the economy as a more probable factor in an increase in crime.
Here's just one set of statistics-Most Murders 2022
St. Louis, MO (69.4)
Baltimore, MD (51.1)
New Orleans, LA (40.6)
Detroit, MI (39.7)
Cleveland, OH (33.7)
Las Vegas, NV (31.4)
Kansas City, MO (31.2)
Memphis, TN (27.1)
https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-city-rankings/cities-wi...