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Yep: Google alternative that shares revenue with creators – by Ahrefs

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Re: Yep: Google alternative that shares revenue with creators – by Ahrefs

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Post by thesunkid »

rg111 wrote: post #176
cynusx wrote: post #174

Competing heads-on with Google makes no sense; They already nailed the product on desktop and they are decades ahead in R&D. At most you can attack it from a niche like voice-activated search, video search, Smart TV searches or car-searches. The real opportunity to disrupt them was mobile search but they also saw that and went aggressively after it. The next big mainstream opportunity probably is when brain-to-comput…

Google search gives me mostly shit results now. I have now completely switched to Kagi and code.you.com. I barely use Google now.

just curious why don't you use you.com for both regular search and code search?

Re: Yep: Google alternative that shares revenue with creators – by Ahrefs

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Post by wonderbore »

rickhaasteren wrote: post #167
wonderbore wrote: post #149

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I don’t think it’s how it works because I see that crap daily in footers, especially in the travel industry. Open any hotel listing on TripAdvisor and count the “[something] in [location]” links in the footer.

“I saw some hotel websites with location links in their footer, so that must be what the SEO industry is all about” Sure.

You don’t get it. “Link building” is not 2007 stuff. You find 2022 articles with that. If you don’t believe it it’s not my problem.

Re: Yep: Google alternative that shares revenue with creators – by Ahrefs

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Post by wonderbore »

stalkerman wrote: post #155
wonderbore wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t think it’s how it works because I see that crap daily in footers, especially in the travel industry. Open any hotel listing on TripAdvisor and count the “[something] in [location]” links in the footer.

I don't see any https://www.marketstreethotel.co.uk

It’s that a listing on TripAdvisor? It’s not.

Re: Yep: Google alternative that shares revenue with creators – by Ahrefs

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Post by ricardo81 »

ffhhj wrote: post #132
Teandw wrote: post #66

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How is that a bug?

"Something went wrong" That's a way to say there was an error. There shouldn't be, search that on Google.

Might just have been their servers being overworked when you looked. Results are returned now.

Re: Yep: Google alternative that shares revenue with creators – by Ahrefs

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Post by KrishnaShripad »

eek2121 wrote: post #128
botsbreeder wrote: post #96

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Not all content is equal. Good content require efforts, often efforts of a team. Youtube is a good example of how revenue share will work in practice. Some creators are getting millions there, some maybe hundreds. But as a consumer you can find good content for almost any topic you can think of. Revenue share amount from Youtube is a few times less than what Google search is making https://abc.xyz/investor/static/pdf…

Youtube is slowly killing itself with abusive revenue practices but ignore THAT bombshell for a moment and focus on why you are wrong. Hint: it actually has almost nothing to do with the fact that a large portion of internet users don't like videos.

> Hint: it actually has almost nothing to do with the fact that a large portion of internet users don't like videos.

Data for this? Rather people love to consume videos. Instagram, Tiktok, Twitch come to mind immediately. Not just Youtube.

Re: Yep: Google alternative that shares revenue with creators – by Ahrefs

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Post by NiceWayToDoIT »

freediver wrote: post #75

Let's see... Under their proposed profit share, if they achieved DDG levels of traffic (100M queries/day, assuming $0.01 per query in net ads profit, that is $900k/day distributed among conservatively speaking 10M creators/sites) distribution would be $0.09 /day to an average content creator owning an average site. It does not sound much. If it was to magically fully replace Google tomorrow (10B queries/day) it would…

We live in a pyramid, so not everyone can live of art/sport. For instance there is 87 million tennis player in the world, but only 1000 or less players actually earn enough money to live comfortably. Wile most of the earnings is withing top 20. Production level are not enough to give everyone a life they would like to have.

Re: Yep: Google alternative that shares revenue with creators – by Ahrefs

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Post by ricardo81 »

moneywoes wrote: post #109
fooey wrote: post #70

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This whole yep.com thing feels like an attempt to get everyone to please stop blocking their bot

Dumb question but would they not rotate bots in a situation like this? Or do they have a specific crawler

They use a specific UA which is in the spirit of robots.txt, you're able to identify and allow/disallow access.

Trying to masquerade as another agent would be considered bad form, but obviously happens a lot.

There's a similar bot, MJ12Bot that powers Majestic's index which is similar to ahrefs. IIRC they have a user agent but their crawling is distributed, it's impossible to verify whether someone with that UA is them or someone else masquerading.

Good practice by bot owners is having a UA and known IPs they crawl from which can be verified by DNS and reverse DNS lookups.

Re: Yep: Google alternative that shares revenue with creators – by Ahrefs

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Post by rickhaasteren »

wonderbore wrote: post #182
rickhaasteren wrote: post #167

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“I saw some hotel websites with location links in their footer, so that must be what the SEO industry is all about” Sure.

You don’t get it. “Link building” is not 2007 stuff. You find 2022 articles with that. If you don’t believe it it’s not my problem.

Link building is still very relevant. But comment spam isn’t 2022 linkbuilding.

Sure, people still do that. Doesn’t mean that’s representative for the SEO industry.

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