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Re: 1Password for Mac Moving to Electron

#182
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What was even the value proposition of using 1password over the native keychain access on mac? Generating passwords? Safari does this now (albeit always ignores the website's specific password rules and gets it wrong most of the time)

I use Safari on iOS and Chrome on Mac, so this is the only way to get password management synced across both

Re: 1Password for Mac Moving to Electron

#183
post #5

The most disturbing part about this is that their support team has been misleading people on Twitter all morning, not truthfully answering straightforward questions about whether the app is Electron: https://twitter.com/1Password/status/1425429965747720200 https://twitter.com/1Password/status/1425470169133031435 https://twitter.com/1Password/status/1425476888072495111

I'm curious to see if they have finally killed off standalone. I've been a 1Password user for years but have staunchly resisted going to their subscription model because I want my data local. It's infuriating that 1Password has steadily downplayed standalone versions to the point where it's almost impossible to find.

The standalone license was killed off a while ago, I guess a month ago.

Re: 1Password for Mac Moving to Electron

#184
post #3

Like I commented the other day, they are losing me as a customer because of that - and because of "improving" the vault format so that it no longer syncs with iOS via iCloud. This is going to cause all sorts of grief when we are forced to upgrade the iOS app to align with 8 and lose the ability to sync via that. I wouldn't mind paying for a Family license if I didn't have to use their sync service - I just don't trus…

they are losing me as a customer because of that I don't think they care - they are chasing the enterprise market who doesn't care how well the desktop client works as long as it integrates with their enterprise SSO solution and gives them the audit logs they need. My company uses 1Password, and their license includes a free 1Password family license for employees.

On the other hand, my company recommends using their standalone license, which does not exist anymore. Online password managers is a no-no at this place. Perhaps self-hosted 1Password will be interesting when it arrives.

Re: 1Password for Mac Moving to Electron

#185
post #21

This is the second time that 1Password Co has done something that I consider a negative... The first one being them "hiding" the standalone version purchase link. Doesn't give me much faith in their future plans which seen to be all about change for changes sake and extracting as much money out of customers as possible. That being said BitWarden uses Electron and Angular for their desktop apps as well.

Hiding the standalone version purchase link helps them justify the move to a subscription-only service: > The overwhelming majority of people (97% in fact) choose to subscribe to our new service and many of those who initially purchased a license later changed their mind and traded it in for a membership. (Source: https://1password.community/discussion/comment/601917/#Comme... ) Which is quite dishonest IMO.

I, for one could not find the standalone. Now I feel like I've been had, and have a bad taste in my mouth. I'm moving to something else. Currently trying out Secrets for MacOS, it will be hard to work with my one PC as it's not crossplatform, but I think I can deal with that.

Re: 1Password for Mac Moving to Electron

#186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Typical tech company will use 90% of it's energy running the HVAC unit so that Susan in accounting stops complaining about being cold but people will freak out cause the app uses slightly more energy.

"people freak out cause the app uses slightly more energy" Multiply the "slightly" by 100 million installs!

Man, this is like when someone was arguing with me that Right on Reds is not that impactful to the environment, they said something like "Oh on average it only cuts off 30 seconds off of someone's commute."

...Ooookay, now times that by everyone commuting.

Re: 1Password for Mac Moving to Electron

#187

Yes, Electron has a bad wrap. In the early days it was a horrific ram hog and even today it still can be for certain poorly optimized apps. But any company today that spends a little time optimizing their application ends up reasonably performant and using reasonable system resources. At the end of the day, It's a lot of investment to build an app native for macos, linux and windows. Plus the web. Plus CLI. Plus mult…

For some, we don't need more features, we just need reliability and speed.

I don't care if my IDE takes an extra beat or so. But I want and need my password right fast, as soon as I need it. Every slow app that I use is by necessity not choice. Slack would be the first thing I uninstall as soon as my work doesn't need it, it would honestly be my first action.

Re: 1Password for Mac Moving to Electron

#188
post #3

Like I commented the other day, they are losing me as a customer because of that - and because of "improving" the vault format so that it no longer syncs with iOS via iCloud. This is going to cause all sorts of grief when we are forced to upgrade the iOS app to align with 8 and lose the ability to sync via that. I wouldn't mind paying for a Family license if I didn't have to use their sync service - I just don't trus…

So what's the best alternative?

Re: 1Password for Mac Moving to Electron

#189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For a nice git client that’s fully native under both macOS and Windows, I strongly recommend Fork[1]. [1]: https://git-fork.com

I’ve been very happy with Fork on macOS. Paid for it a few years ago and never been asked to pay for a new version, even though I totally would at this point. A couple of times when I’ve had support queries I’ve got quick email responses directly from the developer too.

Throwing my support in for Fork as well. I've been following it since it was a free beta and it's always been a great product.

As mentioned, the developer(s) are very responsive to e-mails and have been very nice when dealing with my stupid questions and suggestions.

Definitely recommended.

Re: 1Password for Mac Moving to Electron

#190

Upside: Linux users have a client that's easier kept in sync with features and development on Win/Mac.

They could’ve kept Windows & Linux in sync and kept Mac separate. As they said themselves, “Mac has always held a special place in [their] heart.”
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