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OS X Lion Now Available in the US Mac App Store

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Re: OS X Lion Now Available in the US Mac App Store

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Post by ceejayoz »

blinkingled wrote: post #30

How is the backwards compatibility in general? I got a Oracle 10g database running on SL that I am particularly worried about. I got it anyways - will have to do a full backup and find out I suppose. Speaking of 4GB downloads - OS X still does not have something like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Background_Intelligent_Transfer... which can utilize priorities, throttling and do idle bandwidth downloads. That means my…

XCode 4.1 is now on the App Store: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/xcode/id448457090

Re: OS X Lion Now Available in the US Mac App Store

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Post by gte910h »

knowtheory wrote: post #10

I'm a bit bummed out that i have to either buy multiple copies of the upgrade, or figure out how to enable my account across my wife's machine and the other machines i have. :( I was quite liking the unrestricted installs for 30$

You can install this on all your machines. Just log into the mac appstore. It's like iOS not like iTunes: They don't limit the number of machines.

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Post by daeken »

eli wrote: post #121
daeken wrote: post #82

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The biggest drawback, by far, is the insanely low RAM. Anything less than 8GB is unusable for me, and I certainly can't be the only one.

Honest question: Are there any ultra-lightweight laptops that handle 8GB?

The Dell Adamo (their answer to the MBA, which was nicer than the original, just way too expensive) did a couple years back, but that's now dead. Not sure what else is out there in the space, but just about any newer laptop with upgradable RAM can do 8GB -- almost all will support 4GB in each of the (standard) two banks.

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Post by gte910h »

Nemisis7654 wrote: post #47

I have been a Windows user since I started using computers. I am thinking of purchasing a Macbook Air. As a young programmer (going into fifth year of college), would anyone recommend this laptop?

I'd wait a year till you graduate, if you still need to buy a computer, buy the 17in and add an SSD if you are going to be doing programming, otherwise either the 13in air or 15in MBP will work fine if you need one NOW.

The 13in MBP is pretty low end without upgrading many of the components.

MBPs have tremendous resale value (especially the higher size models), so don't feel so bad about spending a few extra bucks on them.

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Post by gte910h »

napierzaza wrote: post #59
Tyrannosaurs wrote: post #50

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I suspect that Apple would suggest that that was what Time Machine was for. But physical media is still nice. Supposedly you'll be able to buy a USB install for $69 next month.

clap clap clap You're right. They're destroying people's information to make a few hundred dollars. Do you distill rain water because of the fluoride as well? Things break, it's unfortunate.

Time machine is free. Apple isn't making money from that. You're thinking of Time Capsule, which is an external disk people often use with time machine.

Re: OS X Lion Now Available in the US Mac App Store

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Post by gte910h »

iaskwhy wrote: post #78
eli wrote: post #54

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The only big drawback is it ain't cheap. You can even run Windows on if you really want.

Having an external DVD drive to install it is advised though, it is really difficult to do it with a USB drive.

Apple EFI drivers suck. I've been trying to get windows installed on my MBP17" where I replaced the optical drive with a SSD and it's been pure pain.

You'll need the superdrive in particular most likely.

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Post by alexg0 »

masklinn wrote: post #145
jonknee wrote: post #120

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> It was never part of the base install so that's unsurprising. No, but it was always included along with the install disks. No install disks this time and no X Code. It's worth mentioning.

I fail to see how it's worth mentioning. Xcode not being included in the Lion DMG is not surprising, it's "no shit": Xcode was never in the OSX image in the first place, why would Lion be any different? The only difference is that 4.1 is not released yet, and thus not currently available. That's it. That it's not part of lion (let alone installed by default) is anything but surprising.

What is worth mentioning, if you had an earlier version of XCode installed, upgrade to Lion breaks it.

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Post by masklinn »

Johngibb wrote: post #176
masklinn wrote: post #145

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I fail to see how it's worth mentioning. Xcode not being included in the Lion DMG is not surprising, it's "no shit": Xcode was never in the OSX image in the first place, why would Lion be any different? The only difference is that 4.1 is not released yet, and thus not currently available. That's it. That it's not part of lion (let alone installed by default) is anything but surprising.

XCode was in fact always included with the OS X images.

No. Xcode was on a separate disk, never on OSX's. Again, Xcode was never a part of the base install or of the OSX image.

edit: wow, is that how low HN has sunk, voting down reality-based statements and voting up complete nonsense?

Re: OS X Lion Now Available in the US Mac App Store

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Post by gte910h »

Nemisis7654 wrote: post #118
dgallagher wrote: post #94

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From my personal experience, I liked coding Python with Textmate on a MBA, but not Objective-C with Xcode. Py/Text didn't take up much space and was easy to work with. Obj-C/Xcode demand lots of real-estate space, so the tiny screen was a hinderance. So I'd advise that if you have a language that's 'tiny' and a minimalist editor, you'll probably do fine on a MBA. If the language and editor take up lots of space, I'd…

I am mainly an Android developer and use Eclipse, which is by no means light...So I guess, in this case, I should stay away from the MBA?

Call the apple store, tell them this, you will be able to install it or they will on a floor model to show you.

They're super keen on stuff like this.

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