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Re: Myths About Introverts

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Post by mattiask »

You know being an introvert or extrovert isn't a binary thing but rather a spectrum. If you want to find out how you are on that scale you can get do a Myers-Briggs personality test to get a rough estimate.

I'm squarely in the middle myself, I enjoy being by myself for periods of time working on my own stuff but after a while I need to socialize, and when I've socialized I need some me-time again :)

I just hope people think they're introverted because they lack social skills, being uncomfortable and not enjoying certain social situations doesn't mean one is introverted it only means one has to improve one's social skills.

They're like any skill, something you learn by experience and practice. Perhaps the reason that people think many computer-oriented people are introverted is because they choose to spend time in front of their computer instead of interacting with people (irl) and therefore don't develop their social skills as much.

Re: Myths About Introverts

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Post by barkingcat »

dkarl wrote: post #52

Just somebody (presumably an introvert) denying common negative generalizations about introverts without providing any supporting references or analysis. Turns out (thank you, oblique63) it was an off-the-cuff list thought up by someone who read a self-help book and was inspired to "redefine [his] entire life in a new and positive context." Seeing introversion as a preference or identity is fine as long as you have a…

I think it's more of a different perspective.

For example, for the same question "What, you don't want to go to the Nicki Minaj concert?"

An introverted response might be "Hey I really like that kind of music - I just don't want to go with a bunch of people I don't know that well, having to coordinate rides, having idle chit chat, etc. So I'll probably go on my own, and if I run into you guys, that's great. But if I don't run into you guys, hope you have a good time there."

In no way does being introverted mean "staying at home and read a book" or not enjoying life, etc.

And the rock climbing example, why couldn't you rock climb on your own? That seems like a stupid question, but my first instinct as an introvert would just be to go tackle a big cliff on my own - cause I don't really want to meet a bunch of macho folks that I don't know - you know, people do climb K2 on their own, even though it's dangerous, it makes the accomplishment even more intense.

I've done 60 km-100km bike rides in the dark, in the middle of the night, on my own - just so I don't have to talk to people - so I kinda know what it feels like.

Re: Myths About Introverts

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

gruseom wrote: post #169
dkarl wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a fairly coherent consensus view of the salient points of the intro/extra dichotomy Not at all. First of all, introversion was a concept long before psychologists started to get technical with it. Second, its appeal as a psychological concept is mostly to laymen like us, and it certainly isn't used in any technical sense when people write blog posts about how great introverts are. So even without citing any d…

introversion was a concept long before psychologists started to get technical with it. I believe that's wrong; the term was introduced by Jung in Psychological Types and thus originates as a technical concept in psychology.

The term "introversion" was introduced by Jung as describing a particular condition that pre-existed. He originates the term but not introversion itself which is extent but (possibly) unlabelled. (Aside: It usually turns out with these things that others had labelled it but not popularised their encapsulation of the concept or failed to be as encompassing or thorough - not sure if this is true here though.)

I think the real problem you have is with the loose use of the word "concept" by the parent.

Re: Myths About Introverts

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Post by rokhayakebe »

Psyonic wrote: post #173
rokhayakebe wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, you got it wrong. Noone said anything about my success rate, which is laughable. I am just saying I am introverted, and shy but I do talk to women. Yes, competition is there, but what should I do instead? Cry about my inability to be a social butterfly.

First off, I want to say I'm on your side. I've got nothing but good things to say about you getting out there and making an effort. So ultimately this is just a semantic argument. I still think you've overcome "shy" if you can approach in a club. Inverted, sure, but not shy. Regardless, semantic arguments really are the worst kind, so I'm letting this one go. Keep fighting the good fight.

You could be right, maybe I am "overcoming" my shyness.

Re: Myths About Introverts

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

Psyonic wrote: post #132
Benjo wrote: post #97

I feel compelled to share my current process of understanding and dealing with my own introversion. Maybe this will resonate with others, maybe not. Where I am right now, it's more important for me to be able to share this than anything else. I ended a relationship recently, partly because we had huge communication issues. Her thoughts were always close to the surface, I tended to think about things for hours before…

Patronizing comments like "Have you had enough quiet time today?" are anything but innocuous. That would be a huge red flag for me that the relationship is unhealthy. There's no reason to tolerate such overt disrespect.

It depends. Was she being patronising or were you perceiving it as patronising. Perhaps she was unable to tell if you wished her company or not and doesn't want to overstep the mark.

That sounds the like the response someone would make after hearing "I just need a bit of times to myself" quite often.

Re: Myths About Introverts

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Post by dkarl »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #183
gruseom wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

introversion was a concept long before psychologists started to get technical with it. I believe that's wrong; the term was introduced by Jung in Psychological Types and thus originates as a technical concept in psychology.

The term "introversion" was introduced by Jung as describing a particular condition that pre-existed. He originates the term but not introversion itself which is extent but (possibly) unlabelled. (Aside: It usually turns out with these things that others had labelled it but not popularised their encapsulation of the concept or failed to be as encompassing or thorough - not sure if this is true here though.) I think t…

The term "introversion" dates to the 17th century.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/introversion

Re: Myths About Introverts

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

dkarl wrote: post #189
pbhjpbhj wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The term "introversion" was introduced by Jung as describing a particular condition that pre-existed. He originates the term but not introversion itself which is extent but (possibly) unlabelled. (Aside: It usually turns out with these things that others had labelled it but not popularised their encapsulation of the concept or failed to be as encompassing or thorough - not sure if this is true here though.) I think t…

The term "introversion" dates to the 17th century. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/introversion

Yes it seems that Jung possibly coined extroversion (from a little further reading) but that the specific use of introversion was popularised by him. If you re-read my sentence I'm actually saying that the term was "introduced to describe a particular condition" and not that this was the first use: presumably the prior use was related to physical introversion?

I was assuming the presentation in the parent to apply a reductio style argument without establishing the verity of his premise. My pedantry must be wearing off or something.

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