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PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available

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Re: PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available

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Post by linmob »

johnchristopher wrote: post #13

I love KDE, it's been my daily driver since I had to reinstall a desktop in a hurry and my awesome-wm config was too old. Dolphin et gwenview are speed killers (I love Gnome's ethos but Nautilus is a snail and is missing many features I use hourly). Can the KDE pinephone be used as handheld computer for reading PDF, taking pictures, scanning bills and invoices, media player and that kind of things ? I am not ready to…

Reading PDF works with Okular.. but I doubt the (5 MP) camera is going to fit your needs. Maybe my latest video can help you to make a decision: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ8V0lRxKgM

Re: PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available

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Post by goffi »

qwertox wrote: post #106
hobofan wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As of today yes, but who knows about tomorrow. Termux might be facing a harsh future given the changes in Android 10.[0] Actually switching to a pure Linux phone and might be the more viable long-term solution. [0]: https://github.com/termux/termux-packages/wiki/Termux-and-An...

I was using SL4A [0] back in the days, had a Twisted server running on it, until the development on it stopped. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scripting_Layer_for_Android

You should have a look at Python-for-Android, it's maintained and works quite well.

https://python-for-android.readthedocs.io

Re: PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available

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Post by linmob »

Ardon wrote: post #50
antoineMoPa wrote: post #45

> $199 — 3GB RAM; 32GB eMMC (includes a bundled USB-C dock) This could basically be a daily use PC + Phone for 199$? Quite impressive.

"Daily use" might be a biiit of a stretch with this hardware, but it'll be functional. I think Pinephone 2, whenever that happens, will be a much more practical convergence device. Pine64's plans to upgrade to the RK3566 SOC in their low-power devices look very promising.

I made a couple videos on convergence already (https://linmob.net, my video channels are linked). In a recent live stream (I’ll definitely publish that segment) I used Gnome 3 on the docked PinePhone and it was surprisingly good.

Re: PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available

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Post by linmob »

ekianjo wrote: post #96
LeonM wrote: post #58

Does anyone here have experience with actually using the pinephone as a daily driver? I know plenty of people that ordered one, but they are all laying on a drawer somewhere with the intention to play with it a bit. Basically how most RPi's end up. Just curious if this phone is actually competitive with android devices in the same price class.

here's a recent review: https://boilingsteam.com/pinephone-community-edition-ce-revi...

July isn’t exactly recent with a project that’s so much in development. I have been following the PinePhone intensely since July for my blog linmob.net and often found that what I experienced two weeks ago is not worth talking about today, because development progressed a lot since. (Occasionally, regressions happen, too.)

Re: PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available

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Post by linmob »

kop316 wrote: post #77
peternicky wrote: post #39

Is there a summary of functionality for pinephone? I’m not clear if for example the degraded mms support is an issue in all variants of mobile gnu Linux distros or oif only some suffer.

Since there are so many distros, it is honestly hard to keep up with (even if you are involved with the commuity). In (very) broad strokes (i.e. if you use a well supported distro), you can expect: - Calls and SMS seem stable, even when the phone is asleep - Battery life Screen on time is measured in hours, and sleep time is measured in ~1 day - Anbox is usable, but not easy to install - convergance is stable - MMS i…

Which distribution are you using? (Asking because there are differences in feature support and reliability .)

Re: PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available

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Post by linmob »

unpixer wrote: post #112
p4bl0 wrote: post #23

Is is able to run Android apps? Like Signal for example? Or maybe the Signal desktop app works?

I had no luck getting Signal for Android working in Anbox (too crashy). There are unofficial ports of Signal Desktop to aarch64 available here and there online, and there's also someone who got some sort of unholy Signal-Matrix hybrid working ( https://old.reddit.com/r/PINE64official/comments/jusbk3/upda... ) but the whole Signal situation is very much a work in progress.

Don’t forget about Axolotl: https://wiki.mobian-project.org/doku.php?id=axolotl

Re: PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available

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Post by linmob »

Mediterraneo10 wrote: post #117
avery42 wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, Anbox is working pretty well on Arch Linux ARM [0][1], although I haven't tried Signal specifically. [0] https://github.com/dreemurrs-embedded/Pine64-Arch/releases [1] https://github.com/dreemurrs-embedded/Pine64-Arch/wiki/Anbox

Anbox is so RAM-heavy that it really isn't a realistic solution for running Signal (or OSMAnd, another app that I need on my daily driver), at least not on the 2GB Pinephone board. Yes, Anbox support is moving right along so that you can open an Android app on your Pinephone, but not in a way that you can also use e.g. the web browser at the same time.

It can work, but it's definitely no fun to use it without ZRAM and/or swap (and better not wear your eMMC out by swapping to it).

Re: PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available

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Post by girvo »

heavyset_go wrote: post #124
zitterbewegung wrote: post #49

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Any content you see on the screen hasn't changed at all. On a typical website all of the analytics are causing page bloat. Sometimes there are frameworks like bootstrap but hypothetically those should be cached. If you are looking at a web application then it has a framework that is a magnitude higher and the rest of it you see a significant increase.

It isn't the Bootstrap-like frameworks that are causing bloat. It's that websites are written as apps these days by people with relatively beefy machines compared to consumers who don't usually buy top of the line hardware every year. For example, compare Twitter or Facebook to their recent SPA rewrites in React. I can't use either without sacrificing GBs of residential memory. Loading anything on those sites now req…

Reddit is the worst offender for me. I don’t know if they use react? But whatever they’ve done, it’s horrific. It’s bad even on my top of the line 2020 Intel 13” MacBook Pro (the i7 one)!

Re: PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available

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Post by girvo »

alfiedotwtf wrote: post #127
e12e wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The problem is that Linux GUI and apps generally expect laptop/desktop-ish levels of hardware capabilities because that's what they were developed on/for. I remember running x11 and Java w/swing on 8MB 486 laptop... So something is off if multiple cores at 30-100 times the frequency can't run a gui?

Yep. But on mobile, Linux seem to run fine on the n900 and Ubuntu Phones. The FreeRunner and Zaurus were sluggish, but they’re also on hardware that’s about 15 years old

My Nokia N9 ran a Debian derivative quite well. Gosh I miss that phone.
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