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Denmark to cull millions of minks over mutated coronavirus

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Re: Denmark to cull millions of minks over mutated coronavirus

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I hope that ends the industry. And make the state provide better/different jobs for the people affected.

Denmark is not a socialist/communist/marxist country, it is not the Danish state's function to provide jobs for people.

If the government takes away your livelihood like this, I think they should help you get back on your feet somehow.

I'm very happy that these farms are being closed, though.

Re: Denmark to cull millions of minks over mutated coronavirus

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> Denmark, the world's biggest producer of mink fur, said Wednesday it would cull all of the country's minks after a mutated version of the new coronavirus was detected at its mink farms and had spread to people. Questions: 1. Is this worrisome? 2. If Denmark is catching this, should we be concerned that the virus has mutated in other animals and has thus far gone undetected?

" Coronavirus has been detected at 207 Danish mink farms, Frederiksen said. " 1 or 2? Probably no big deal. 10 or 20? Worrying. 207? Yeah, the new strain is probably everywhere, or will be shortly.

Not all of those will be the new strain. The regular strain seems to be capable of infecting minks on its own, where it wreaks havoc on the tightly packed population. The problem is that this adds an entirely different evolutionary pressure that can result in a markedly different virus, which in the worst case can jump back to humans.

This is that worst case.

Re: Denmark to cull millions of minks over mutated coronavirus

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A bit of background: It was discovered that Danish mink got infected by SARS-CoV-2 in June. There were local outbreaks at farms and some of these spread to nearby farms. Authorities scrambled and these farms were isolated and the mink killed. However, the spread continued to more than 200 farms, sometimes across large distances, and I still don't think the vector is known. Some speculate that birds might be the carri…

I still do not get it. 12 people have a decreased sensitivity to which antibodies? - some specific antibodies or antibodies in general? Which vaccine (or all of them)? Provided sources are vague about this.

( the best so far: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24991194 )

Re: Denmark to cull millions of minks over mutated coronavirus

#186
post #147

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If I want meat I will eat meat. Plants aren't meat. If you want people to eat plants then promote some vegan dishes that are good on their own without relying on comparisons to something else. "It tastes like meat" is not a compelling pitch. Bacon isn't advertised as "better than plants" or "tastes like plants". It doesn't need to. BMW doesn't run commercials during NFL games where members of the public think their c…

“It tastes like meat” is a good argument when combined with “it’s cheaper than meat.” It falls flat when it’s more expensive than meat.

And even then it only works for people who lack the discretionary income for meat. That's a significant number of people but not everyone. If your goal is to reduce meat consumption in general then the pitch should be "plants are better than meat" rather than "plants can be kinda like meat".

Re: Denmark to cull millions of minks over mutated coronavirus

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Everyone? What about cotton, linen, hemp?

Fwiw, cotton crops are incredibly water intensive. Probably a better solution than factory farming animals or releasing more plastics into the environment, but it's not perfect either.

Something has to give.

Re: Denmark to cull millions of minks over mutated coronavirus

#188
post #8

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They live on factory farms and then are killed for their fur. Frankly, this is a mercy killing.

Furs can still be collected and sterilized maybe?

Are you volunteering to be the one to work with bodily fluids and aerosol droplets carrying Covid-20?

Re: Denmark to cull millions of minks over mutated coronavirus

#189
post #177

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Is it alarmist? The article is mostly covering the action of the Danish government, which has decided to cull all the minks. The action may be alarmist but that's another story.

To me, the important part of the article is that this strain may have rendered the vaccines useless, thus delaying immunisation of humans. If it says that, and that is not true, then it is alarmist, no?

It is a statement from the Prime Minister of Denmark in the press conference explaining that the government is culling the minks.

The Prime Minister is being alarmist, but quoting people verbatim generally isn’t; they are covering the facts of the event, including the fact that the person in charge and responsible for the newsworthy event said this statement. The AFP is not reporting whether the statement is true or false.

Re: Denmark to cull millions of minks over mutated coronavirus

#190
post #76

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Depends on where you are. The US has significantly improved testing (I work for a COVID-19 testing company) but people don't socially isolate or wear their damn masks. We had issues in the election yesterday of poll workers not wearing masks. People just don't get it, and this behavior clearly isn't "fixed" as the winter surge is well under way.

A question: Why aren't we running randomized survey testing to determine the extent of infections?

We are, sort of, when big cities test sewage.
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