Cancel culture at it's best. What happened to freedom of speech, freedom of opinion, freedom to choose. If Spotify were smart they wouldn't censor any of the podcasts. Instead they would put a Twitter like message warning the user... As a way to satisfy the cancel culture crowd. I don't care about Joe or his views. But I do care about people having choice and freedom
Spotify reportedly fighting with employees about hosting episodes of Joe Rogan
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#182Cancel culture at it's best. What happened to freedom of speech, freedom of opinion, freedom to choose. If Spotify were smart they wouldn't censor any of the podcasts. Instead they would put a Twitter like message warning the user... As a way to satisfy the cancel culture crowd. I don't care about Joe or his views. But I do care about people having choice and freedom
Spotify has the right to choose what is on their platform. Spotify employees have the right to voice their concerns if the company they work for is alienating them. But I guess that's not the kind of freedom you are interested in.
Re: Spotify reportedly fighting with employees about hosting episodes of Joe Rogan
#183I’m curious what his contract with them stipulates on these matters. As for the employees, they could contact Rogan and either ask to come on the show to discuss what they find so offensive. Joe will talk to anyone, let them have their say and explain their point of view. Arguing to censor his episode history only sends the message that Spotify isn’t a platform for intellectual curiosity and free speech.
Can't see Rogan agreeing to any type of content moderation. It baffles me when people think it's acceptable to throw freedom of speech out the window just because someone is offended.
We have to keep pushing back on this. "I am offended that you don't respect someone elses opinion" ;)
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#184What constitutes transphobic exactly? Is it in the eye of the beholder, like porn: you'll know it when you see it?
It’s fundamentally postmodern: impact matters, not intent. Meaning: if someone’s triggered and distressed by anything and you trigger them, you’re in the wrong, not them.
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#185Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is unfortunate and unacceptable. Joe should have a free and censorship free place to discuss topics. We have lost our minds: the ability to freely and discuss literally any topic was an American staple. Now you don’t dare say something that could potentially offend someone. I could be fired if I said what I really think about some controversial issues and linked it to my identity. That’s not a world I enjoy livi…
I'm not convinced we're worse off than in previous decades. Granted, the type of views that are "offensive" changed and there were some clear power shifts (and from your statement I assume you're on the losing side of that shift), but having to conceal your views for fear of retribution was always a thing.
I have a few fun colleagues that tell jokes all the time. If they get fired for this, I'm instantly quitting.
Re: Spotify reportedly fighting with employees about hosting episodes of Joe Rogan
#186Earlier quoted context omitted.
Private companies censoring isn't a new thing. Regardless, information is shared as such a rate now that comparing them to anecdotes from the 80s isn't even applicable. I'd have trouble believing a radio talk show host from the 80s would host self-proclaimed neo nazis like Joe Rogan has. If anything, speech is so free now that we see opinions that wouldn't have seen the light of day a few decades ago. Which is why co…
Did Joe Rogan literally proclaim himself as a neo-nazi or is it a hyperbole? Genuinely curious, since a quick web search didn't shed any light in that question
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#187As a long time listener I will go to bat for Joe's show, he is a loving, rational, open person, and he simply does not platform hateful people or not challenge unjust statements. Some media, political actors, and certain people who don't listen to his show want to spin him as a hate speech alt-righter, especially now on this election year since he platforms Bernie and Tulsi but is against Biden. Find the amount of ba…
Yah, people on both sides condemn him because he will have Alex Jones on his show one week and then Bernie the next, two people about as far from each other as possible. He reminds me a bit of Charlie Rose's ability to just talk to people on both sides of the political spectrum. And do it without creating a lot of drama. And like Charlie Rose, he will call people's BS (and let them call his), but then move on before…
I think we all are tired of journalists that are fishing and pushing their guests.
There will always be haters when you are so popular. But don't forget that he remains really popular.
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#188Earlier quoted context omitted.
Spotify has already made the decision to exclude multiple Joe Rogan episodes from their catalog, this is just a decision of where they draw their line.
This is unfortunate and unacceptable. Joe should have a free and censorship free place to discuss topics. We have lost our minds: the ability to freely and discuss literally any topic was an American staple. Now you don’t dare say something that could potentially offend someone. I could be fired if I said what I really think about some controversial issues and linked it to my identity. That’s not a world I enjoy livi…
Sex, breasts, swearwords? As far as I can remember the American staple was and is to bleep every fucking thing that could potentially be connected to a nipple.
Re: Spotify reportedly fighting with employees about hosting episodes of Joe Rogan
#189Earlier quoted context omitted.
Did Joe Rogan literally proclaim himself as a neo-nazi or is it a hyperbole? Genuinely curious, since a quick web search didn't shed any light in that question
I had to read the paragraph a few times, but I think what is being said is that "Joe has hosted self proclaimed neo-Nazis'.
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#190I probably think its a mix of scarcity of talent and the political leaning of silicon valley. Either ways, looks like people hired to do something else are calling the shots and people that are supposed to make decisions are getting walked all over. Any other industry would put these activists in place and be told to focus on doing work or quit and get into politics.