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Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by hinkley »

jandrese wrote: post #178
hinkley wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> FCC Regulations mean you can transmit at a max of 300mW only Is that new? When I was originally playing with dd-wrt I was under the impression that 100 was the limit, discovered my AP was defaulting to something like 70mW, and would allow you to go higher.

You might be right. My memory is from several years ago when I was working with some possibly dubious long range outdoor radios.

The funny thing is that they don't seem to care about the directionality of the signal. You fire 120mW in a sphere and they have opinions. Narrow 100mW down to a (double) cone or a disc? No problemo.

Makes no goddamned sense to me.

Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by zymhan »

emsy wrote: post #58
zymhan wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The MX anywhere is not meant to compete with the MX/MX2S/MX3. The "Anywhere" is a portable mouse, hence the laser cover. The MX 2S and 3 are meant to be left on a desk.

No, I'm talking about Anywhere MX and Anywhere MX2, I lazily omitted the Anywhere in my comment. Sorry for the confusion, I edited the original comment.

Ah okay, no worries

Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by pathartl »

2bitencryption wrote: post #56

Do they make high-quality mice like these for left-handed people? I'm always jealous by this type of mouse, while I'm stuck using my cheap sad ambidextrous Microsoft mouse.

Razer made a left handed Deathadder in ~2011. They've since been discontinued, I have 3 of them and can't switch away. I've gone through probably 5 others. The tracking is nice and the feel is very good, but the scroll wheel is made from acrylic and tends to warp over time. The left, right, and middle buttons basically suck and wear down. The toothed shaft on the scroll wheel is also very tiny where it meets with the rotary encoder and is very prone to snapping off or wearing down due to friction.

All these problems and I fear I'll never see a better left-handed mouse.

Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by pathartl »

kcolford wrote: post #63
euph0ria wrote: post #51

Is there any equivalent high quality preferred-choice-by-many keyboard?

Das Keyboard is the way to go my friend. They're absolutely lovely to type on. Although any other mechanical keyboard is probably acceptable...

Yeah I love the latest Das Model S Ultimate. The aluminum plate and the keycaps feel very premium. The newer one's at work and I have an older gen at home and I much prefer the newer.

Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by LegitShady »

sjwright wrote: post #147
whalesalad wrote: post #59

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Logitech software is a dumpster fire. For a while there it would start and go to 170-190% CPU and just burn until it was killed. I share your experience and frustration.

I’d include Razer in the dumpster fire pile. In my estimation, the custom drivers of most HID products seem to be as bad as printer drivers back in the late 1990s/early 2000s. Actually worse because of all the RGB nonsense and cloud bullshit.

I use a razer orbweaver as a macro keyboard, and even though its still for sale it doesn't work with the current version of Synapse. So if you have an orbweaver and another peripheral, you need to run both synapse 2 and 3.

Instead I just stopped buying razer products.

Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by brailsafe »

hughes wrote: post #42
brailsafe wrote: post #38

Really wish the MX master 3 had a USB-C receiver. Bluetooth just doesn't cut it sometimes

What BT issues have you had?

Same as others. Usually fine now but vunerable to noise and so on. Interference can cause spaghetti mouse.

Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by zmix »

Could anyone, with industry ties, forward these threads, in which people are fed up with the vendor supplied support software / drivers, each time they come up (and the do come up), to the appropriate decision makers?

Thank you!

Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by rkagerer »

kosma wrote: post #180
irjustin wrote: post #140

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I'll go with occam's razor and say it was simply not removed from the development board to the full production board. It's probably related to tuning but on a production board? Normally if you need it as part of your production process it would just be part of the tuning tool itself. But honestly I cannot see how it would be used in production since the antenna length is determined by that point.

Removing the silk also de-tunes the antenna. It's cheaper to leave it there than to remove it and re-tune.

Hah! Hadn't thought of that; thanks.

Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by irjustin »

kosma wrote: post #180
irjustin wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll go with occam's razor and say it was simply not removed from the development board to the full production board. It's probably related to tuning but on a production board? Normally if you need it as part of your production process it would just be part of the tuning tool itself. But honestly I cannot see how it would be used in production since the antenna length is determined by that point.

Removing the silk also de-tunes the antenna. It's cheaper to leave it there than to remove it and re-tune.

Interesting! How is that? Simply mass around the antenna being removed changes the tuning?
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