Spotify shuts down direct music uploading for independent artists

Post by squarefoot » Wed, Jul 03, 2019, 10:48 PM UTC

Jeff_Brown wrote: post #175

cwkoss wrote: post #157

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Music labels are strangling culture in America. Please pirate music to avoid funding music industry lobbyists in their efforts.

Maybe labels are bad, but piracy is far worse for artists -- it reduces their incentive to produce. That's why, for instance, big bands have become such an endangered species. Almost nobody can afford to hire, say, a horn section today.

Post by tomdell » Wed, Jul 03, 2019, 11:13 PM UTC

njl wrote: post #113

jasode wrote: post #14

The submitted article doesn't mention it but my guess at connecting the dots is that it's related to EU Article 13's stringent requirement of "upload filters"[0]. Yes, Spotify's direct uploading "gave opportunity for small artists to share their talent" -- but that same mechanism also made it too easy to upload copyright infringing content. Since Spotify does not have a machine learning AI copyright filter like Youtu…

Spotify has internal fingerprinting stuff that can handle this easily enough. The shutdown is entirely due to pressure from the record labels. It's a shame; this was a surprisingly difficult product to get off the ground, and a lot of folks put in heroic efforts to make it work.

Post by Jeff_Brown » Wed, Jul 03, 2019, 11:57 PM UTC

squarefoot wrote: post #181

Jeff_Brown wrote: post #175

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Maybe labels are bad, but piracy is far worse for artists -- it reduces their incentive to produce. That's why, for instance, big bands have become such an endangered species. Almost nobody can afford to hire, say, a horn section today.

Big bands were essentially killed [0] by cheaper multitrack recording, synthesizers and samplers in the 80s, when there were no such things as torrent trackers. Even the wonderful although hugely inefficient Napster was more than a decade away. Today artists get most money from gigs, while record labels profit the most from printed music sales and royalties. [0] The correct term should be "relegated to niche performa…

Post by autoexec » Thu, Jul 04, 2019, 2:12 AM UTC

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dalbasal wrote: post #77

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>>Since Spotify does not have a machine learning AI copyright filter like Youtube's ContentID If true, this is worrying. It basically gives a handful of companies a monopoly over a potentially wide range of things. It is unreasonable to require everyone to meet a standard that relies on cutting edge technology.

It is very worrying. It is like regulatory capture, but not implemented at the request of the company. It was done purely by the EU. By requiring cutting edge and practically non existent technology, it somewhat requires a monopoly by the one company that can do it (YouTube, or do it the best because there is no perfect filter). And the EU will then turn around and fine them for being too big. I believe in well regul…

Post by DocTomoe » Thu, Jul 04, 2019, 4:29 AM UTC

cwkoss wrote: post #157

njl wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spotify has internal fingerprinting stuff that can handle this easily enough. The shutdown is entirely due to pressure from the record labels. It's a shame; this was a surprisingly difficult product to get off the ground, and a lot of folks put in heroic efforts to make it work.

Music labels are strangling culture in America. Please pirate music to avoid funding music industry lobbyists in their efforts.