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Re: Spotify shuts down direct music uploading for independent artists

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Post by Nightshaxx »

sk0g wrote: post #29
adam0c wrote: post #16

I guess that means we cant upload tool anymore under other names

Really wish Spotify did the Google Play Music thing of letting you upload a few thousand songs to fill in the gaps in their library. From what I can tell, they sorta do - they let you add songs on your device, but I haven't been able to find them in my app sooo :|

The way they impliment it is pretty bad. Basically you have to add a local music folder on your PC, then you have to use the search tool to find it (on PC) and add it to a playlist. Then you have to go onto your mobile while on the same network as the PC, and download the playlist.

Spotify doesn't store your song at all on their servers (unlike google) and if you want to re-download the files on a new device, the original pc that had it has to still be there or else you have to redo the whole thing.

Re: Spotify shuts down direct music uploading for independent artists

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Post by _jyog »

criley2 wrote: post #20
toxik wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good job, EU! Squelch your citizenry in the interest of the copyright industry. Content filtering is draconian and fundamentally opposed to a free and open society.

It keeps happening with their draconian regulations. After the privacy/data protection bill, I hear that the european market for online advertising imploded trying to meet regulations and Google Ads gobbled up some 30-40% more market share in Europe. It came down to the fact that Google was able to meet the regulations fastest, and achieve informed user consent across a wide userbase dramatically faster than small lo…

I'm really sorry to hear that google ads got even more, and now they're going to complain about a monopoly. Things like GDPR also make it harder to start a competitor, as paperwork and red tape always do; I have not personally worked on GDPR for any thing, but know some one who does and it's a nightmare.

If stringent government regulation got you here, maybe it will be less of that, not more, that gets you out.

Re: Spotify shuts down direct music uploading for independent artists

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Post by raverbashing »

criley2 wrote: post #20
toxik wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good job, EU! Squelch your citizenry in the interest of the copyright industry. Content filtering is draconian and fundamentally opposed to a free and open society.

It keeps happening with their draconian regulations. After the privacy/data protection bill, I hear that the european market for online advertising imploded trying to meet regulations and Google Ads gobbled up some 30-40% more market share in Europe. It came down to the fact that Google was able to meet the regulations fastest, and achieve informed user consent across a wide userbase dramatically faster than small lo…

"Draconian"

Yeah I'm sure not letting companies sell all the data about you to the highest bidder is somehow "draconian". Poor them

You're right about the market capture, though it seems to me the ad market is in a bubble and that massive retargeting and trying to sell people things they already own is going to get old soon.

Good contextualized marketing is less dependant on the profiles and more on what it's being shown right now.

Re: Spotify shuts down direct music uploading for independent artists

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Post by TazeTSchnitzel »

criley2 wrote: post #20
toxik wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good job, EU! Squelch your citizenry in the interest of the copyright industry. Content filtering is draconian and fundamentally opposed to a free and open society.

It keeps happening with their draconian regulations. After the privacy/data protection bill, I hear that the european market for online advertising imploded trying to meet regulations and Google Ads gobbled up some 30-40% more market share in Europe. It came down to the fact that Google was able to meet the regulations fastest, and achieve informed user consent across a wide userbase dramatically faster than small lo…

GDPR was supposed to kill surveillance adtech, and it is gradually doing its job. The regulators are not ignoring Google and friends and the enforcement actions will hurt them at some point.

Re: Spotify shuts down direct music uploading for independent artists

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Post by creaghpatr »

This sort of addresses a number of disparate issues related to quality control. I don't know how I feel about it, but they probably had to do it to prevent becoming the next YouTube. As long as they don't allow user ratings or user comments they should be fine.

https://www.theverge.com/2014/5/7/5690590/spotify-removes-si...

https://qz.com/1212330/a-bulgarian-scheme-scammed-spotify-fo...

https://www.vulture.com/2017/07/streaming-music-cheat-codes....

Re: Spotify shuts down direct music uploading for independent artists

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Post by efdee »

nerdponx wrote: post #6
cryptofits wrote: post #4

Too bad... That's one of the things I liked about Spotify It gave opportunity for small artists to share their talent

That's OK, they don't pay the small artists more than a pittance anyway. I canceled my subscription a while ago and started pirating music again. When I want to support a small artist, I buy their music on Bandcamp.

Why did you go back to pirating, instead of paying for albums? Could it be that you were only willing to give a pittance to begin with?

Re: Spotify shuts down direct music uploading for independent artists

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Post by gtirloni »

nerdponx wrote: post #6
cryptofits wrote: post #4

Too bad... That's one of the things I liked about Spotify It gave opportunity for small artists to share their talent

That's OK, they don't pay the small artists more than a pittance anyway. I canceled my subscription a while ago and started pirating music again. When I want to support a small artist, I buy their music on Bandcamp.

Why don't your support big artists as well?

Re: Spotify shuts down direct music uploading for independent artists

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Post by Tharkun »

sk0g wrote: post #27
jasode wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there an advantage for Spotify to allow 2 more years of copyright-infringing uploads that they have to clean up later? Is there another plausible reason for Spotify shutting down direct uploads that's unrelated to copyrights?

Yeah, they could build an in house alternative to the YouTube algorithm to detect dupes/ infringing material. Spotify please hire me so I can work on this, tack.

How can they possibly know whether the artist licensed their samples? Or whether the artist is paying the original artist royalties for the use of their music?

Re: Spotify shuts down direct music uploading for independent artists

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Post by CaptainZapp »

_jyog wrote: post #42
criley2 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It keeps happening with their draconian regulations. After the privacy/data protection bill, I hear that the european market for online advertising imploded trying to meet regulations and Google Ads gobbled up some 30-40% more market share in Europe. It came down to the fact that Google was able to meet the regulations fastest, and achieve informed user consent across a wide userbase dramatically faster than small lo…

I'm really sorry to hear that google ads got even more, and now they're going to complain about a monopoly. Things like GDPR also make it harder to start a competitor, as paperwork and red tape always do; I have not personally worked on GDPR for any thing, but know some one who does and it's a nightmare. If stringent government regulation got you here, maybe it will be less of that, not more, that gets you out.

If stringent government regulation got you here, maybe it will be less of that, not more, that gets you out.

Yeah, we see how fantastically that one worked with the Boeing corporation and their newest flagship plane, The 737MAX.

Re: Spotify shuts down direct music uploading for independent artists

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Post by sickcodebruh »

circlefavshape wrote: post #22

Most likely explanation - nobody was using it. They only introduced it as a beta feature recently, and you have to use a distributor like CDBaby or distrokid to get your music onto other streaming sites anyway, so unless you were only interested in Spotify there was no point

That’s why I didn’t plan on using it for anything other than disposable demos or EP releases that would otherwise be Bandcamp exclusives. Uploading directly to Spotify wouldn’t break my dependency on Tunecore for the releases I care about.
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