Unity Engine ToS change makes cloud-based SpatialOS games illegal

Post by Nullabillity » Thu, Jan 10, 2019, 9:21 PM UTC

Impossible wrote: post #158

Figs wrote: post #87

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If you do have to redo everything, why the hell would you switch to another proprietary technology?! Why not use OpenSceneGraph, OGRE, Irrlicht, Cube2, or one of the hundreds of other free game engines / frameworks out there instead?

Based on your comment it seems like you haven't looked into or used a game engine since the late 90s (Cube 2 and Irrlicht?). The only real open source competition for Unreal and Unity is probably Godot, and it's not really competitive. Many of the engines you mentioned (OSG, Ogre) are not full game engine, but renderers and scene graph implementations. For that something like bgfx or even three.js if you're targeting…

Post by mattnewport » Thu, Jan 10, 2019, 9:30 PM UTC

Post by SolarNet » Thu, Jan 10, 2019, 9:35 PM UTC

bluescrn wrote: post #134

maxsilver wrote: post #128

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> For rapid development of mobile games, Unity is basically the only choice. Why? Unreal Engine has targeted iOS + Android phones for 5+ years now, successfully. (Fortnite, PUBG, Dungeon Defenders, Horn, etc). More mobile developers are experienced with Unity over Unreal today , but that's largely inertia more than anything else.

UE4 has always pushed high-end rendering tech hard and not prioritised mobile. There’s little awareness of the current state of its mobile capabilities, with few big UE4 hits on the App Store (and hundreds of Unity success stories including Pokemon Go and Hearthstone) F2P mobile dev is also very UI heavy, and UI work with Unity/C# is easier than dealing with C++/Unreal. And Unity has a wealth of ready made plugins th…

Post by SolarNet » Thu, Jan 10, 2019, 9:36 PM UTC

poisonarena wrote: post #106

ezekg wrote: post #37

> You may not directly or indirectly distribute the Unity Software, including the runtime portion of the Unity Software (the “Unity Runtime”), or your Project Content (if it incorporates the Unity Runtime) by means of streaming or broadcasting so that any portion of the Unity Software is primarily executed on or simulated by the cloud or a remote server and transmitted over the Internet or other network to end user d…

Or Godot, a highly capable free engine!

Post by wmf » Thu, Jan 10, 2019, 9:37 PM UTC

bilbo0s wrote: post #177

iandanforth wrote: post #171

Tim Sweeney (Founder of Epic Games) reacted strongly to this in a thread on Twitter. https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/108340746025221734... "We specifically make the UE4 EULA apply perpetually so that when you obtain a version under a given EULA, you can stay on that version and operate under that EULA forever if you choose."

In fairness, that's easy for a guy sitting on Fortnite to say. That said, I do agree with his point. Unity should consider making these new TOS provisions apply from today forward instead of making them apply to everything . (That probably won't happen, because it would kneecap their upcoming cloud offerings, but I think ideally that's how it should work.)