Just went through the html to figure out the js library that they used but instead found a lot of elements having the same id's in the page. Looks like the frontend was hastily written to make it just work.
Dtube – A decentralized video platform using STEEM and IPFS
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Re: Dtube – A decentralized video platform using STEEM and IPFS
#182Earlier quoted context omitted.
My guess would be that distributed internet will never work. Sure for popular content like Google.com. or the top 1000 of YouTube will work. But the rest will always crawl to a stand still, since the content will always be on a far away or slow node...
It just needs an incentive to have others host your content, AKA FileCoin. You've always gotta pay a little bit to keep your sites up.
That does however essentially reverse the cost of operations.
Popular content is free to host while content that isn't popular is costly to host.
The more unpopular your content the higher the cost becomes.
Re: Dtube – A decentralized video platform using STEEM and IPFS
#183Ok, so I'm looking at a website that tells me it's decentralized. But from all I can tell this is just a good old website. Somebody has control over the domain name. Points it to servers of his choice. And the servers deliver content of his choice. What's decentralized about it?
A good old website? No. We don't need the domain, you can take the https://github.com/dtube/production repository, ipfs add -r it on ipfs, and use DTube this way -> https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmRWPnY8h7Eg4v74GtKT6UBy2kUAN139QwYPUrg... (few bugs but it works apart from /home not being rendered on first load, you need to click the logo) What is decentralised: - The website (its fully static and can be hosted on ipfs) - The v…
> The search endpoint (asksteem.com). This is used for the search, tags browsing, and related videos.
But search (discoverability) is precisely where one of the biggest problems with YouTube lies. The trouble is that YouTube has enormous power over content creators by its centralized search portal only.
Discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15528942
Re: Dtube – A decentralized video platform using STEEM and IPFS
#184Earlier quoted context omitted.
run a local ipfs node and replace the ipfs.io part with your IP, it will work fine. you can even mount ipfs as a readonly filesystem and cat that hash and get the content.
If you install ipfs-companion browser extension, it will automatically turn all ipfs.io/ipfs/ links to links to your locally running gateway.
It actually replaces all links of the form /ipfs/ , regardless of the domain.
Re: Dtube – A decentralized video platform using STEEM and IPFS
#185Earlier quoted context omitted.
A good old website? No. We don't need the domain, you can take the https://github.com/dtube/production repository, ipfs add -r it on ipfs, and use DTube this way -> https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmRWPnY8h7Eg4v74GtKT6UBy2kUAN139QwYPUrg... (few bugs but it works apart from /home not being rendered on first load, you need to click the logo) What is decentralised: - The website (its fully static and can be hosted on ipfs) - The v…
> The search endpoint (asksteem.com). This is used for the search, tags browsing, and related videos. But search (discoverability) is precisely where one of the biggest problems with YouTube lies. The trouble is that YouTube has enormous power over content creators by its centralized search portal only. Discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15528942
The blockchain gives us some decentralized discoverability. The new/hot/trending listings come directly from the blockchain, and cannot be altered by us. It follows the reddit ranking algorithm.
But yes I agree. Us controlling related videos and the search engine, is basically the same as YouTube. If we want to make a video popular, we can, and that's bad.
Sadly decentralised search for DTube would be a very interesting project, but not something we are willing to spend months of developer time on. If we ever see a good enough decentralised solution for search, we will adopt it, even if it reduces our quality a little.
Re: Dtube – A decentralized video platform using STEEM and IPFS
#186I've had a sense that something like this would be the future. However for the less up to par with cutting edge web technologies, how about a single page that in a condense manner describes the technology behind this? Even for a person somewhat up to date with distributed technologies it takes at least an hour to understand exactly what's going on.
Again not trying to be harsh, but I feel that the UI, in this stages looks a little bit too much like youtube, giving it a cheap feel, that makes it a bit hard to sell to "normal" people.
And oh, I feel that having three decimals on the earnings looks a bit weird to me. Isn't two decimals enough? Say $116.688 is hard for my brain to parse either it's 116 dollars and 68.8 cents or maybe it's around 1 million dollars???
Re: Dtube – A decentralized video platform using STEEM and IPFS
#187Earlier quoted context omitted.
Note that reddit devs are trying hard to hide these controversial subreddits. You won't see them if you go to https://www.reddit.com/ for instance. That's partly why they introduced the "popular" meta-subreddit a while ago. Reddit is pretty advertiser friendly, hence famous people making AMAs to promote something, official or semi-official subreddits for some video games etc... If you want to see the controversial co…
Reddit could ban that entire crack den of T_D and friends. Let them go to voat, it was specifically founded for the alt-right, same as gab.ai as a Nazi twitter clone. They're all alone out there and don't have any influence anymore... the problem with T_D specifically is that their users lesk out to other, normal subreddit and spew their stuff there. Ban the subreddit, ban all the top commenters/submissions, their ad…
>Let them go to voat, it was specifically founded for the alt-right [...]
Except it wasn't. It simply experienced more and more waves of users from banned subreddits (which were mainly alt-right related ones) coming in and eventually making an hard right turn on the main website culture, driving out most existing center/left users. It did serve me as a lesson on what external influences can do to existing communities tho.
Re: Dtube – A decentralized video platform using STEEM and IPFS
#188How does it compare to Peertube? https://peertube.cpy.re/ Ah I see, DTube is based upon IPFS, while peertube relies upon good ol' BitTorrent directly (though IPFS uses BitTorrent too?)
ipfs is a new protocol which happens to do similar things to bittorrent. For simplicity you can think of it as bittorrent with folders
Re: Dtube – A decentralized video platform using STEEM and IPFS
#189Earlier quoted context omitted.
Videos can be hidden in the UI but only via enough downvotes from the community, even then the video and its hash is still on the blockchain and available via ipfs.
Not to diminish the technical accomplishment here, but that sounds like the very definition of tyranny of the majority. Not to say that our current systems of manual moderation are perfect, but at least it's a step removed from mob rule, with recourse usually available if a video is wrongly flagged for simply expressing unpopular opinion. If a video tries to express unpopular viewpoints at DTube, it would seem imposs…
Particularly with how popular it is to use bots to Facebook Like, Retweet Twitter, Upvote Reddit, etc. I'm a little worried about being hidden from search when you get too many downvotes, because I personally could probably create a downvote bot army in a day and I'm not really even that interested in it.
Re: Dtube – A decentralized video platform using STEEM and IPFS
#190Earlier quoted context omitted.
It just needs an incentive to have others host your content, AKA FileCoin. You've always gotta pay a little bit to keep your sites up.
That does however essentially reverse the cost of operations. Popular content is free to host while content that isn't popular is costly to host. The more unpopular your content the higher the cost becomes.
I'm not sure if I follow. This is from Sia, so it might not be the case with IPFS + FileCoin, but the cost for finding a host is the same for everyone. The hosts themselves determine their own price, and they're given a rating determined by the amount of storage they have + uptime + bandwidth. Users can then choose who hosts their content by looking at their rating versus cost.
Currently, without monetization in place, popular content is easy to host while unpopular content is not. Monetization levels the playing field.