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Tesla Model 3 Sets New EV Cannonball Run Record

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Re: Tesla Model 3 Sets New EV Cannonball Run Record

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kinkrtyavimoodh wrote: post #69
jimbokun wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Musk is a genius at PR: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/945712432416137217 Saw this yesterday when someone threw together a quick article on all of the gushing responses from customers to this tweet. How can you say someone nicknamed "the real world Iron Man" is bad at PR?

I think they meant PR-only guy. His PR genius is in using his fan following for free PR. Tesla or SpaceX hardly need to spend any marketing dollars. No other tech leader is as charismatic (Steve Jobs came close, but Musk seems more genuine whereas Jobs felt like a salesman) and very few are as personally intelligent and accomplished.

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Post by schiffern »

atourgates wrote: post #134
_ph_ wrote: post #121

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Yes, refuling will always be faster than recharging. That is physics. The question rather is: at which point (and for which driver profile) is it no longer a practical problem? Elektric cars already save you a lot of refuling stops in day-to-day driving, if you plug them in over night. And the Tesla supercharger network is basically almost fast enough, that it reasonably fits with the breaks one would take on long tr…

Personally, I think it's when an EV can make a 9-hour drive without needing more than about 30 minutes of total charging. 9 hours is (in my opinion) the max amount of driving you can seriously do without at least a couple hours of resting. That'd be about 540 miles total, maybe a bit less if you could make those 30 minutes of rest stops at a fast charger. Right now, EV's are clearly the future. I'd say that when they…

> Personally, I think it's when an EV can make a 9-hour drive without needing more than about 30 minutes of total charging.

The Model S 100D can almost do that already: start in your garage with a 100% charge, drive 300 miles, recharge 80% in 40 minutes, drive another 240 miles. Under ideal conditions it can even achieve it (the EPA range being 335 miles).

Current Superchargers can put out 145 kW, but the cars can only accept 120 kW. So the network already has some future-proofing for when the chemistry catches up.

Of course the old goalpost used to be 300 miles without charging. I have no doubt it will move yet again, and "24 hours of driving with only 5 minutes of charging" will become the new benchmark for practicality. :p

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Post by Obi_Juan_Kenobi »

kumarvvr wrote: post #14

There is so much negativity about Tesla. Watching Tesla reminds of the the quote "We hoped for flying cars, but what we got was 140 characters" (or something similar, I don't remember it verbatim) Every time I think about Tesla, I am reminded of the thousands of brilliant engineers toiling away in Silicon Valley trying to optimize online advertising. Maybe we could be a bit more closer to Fusion energy, maybe we coul…

I think any reasonable observer is impressed by what he's done and optimistic about even some of his more outlandish claims.

I think the issue is you've got rabid fanboys, so as a response to that, you get rabid haters as well.

For every circlejerk, there is an equal and opposite counter-jerk.

Don't forget that, at least with Tesla, there's lots of money involved. Even people that aren't actively FUDing, if they aren't long on Tesla, then criticism is reassuring to them.

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Post by bneumann »

stefanfisk wrote: post #15
EwanToo wrote: post #13

I'm a Tesla fan, but in the middle of the article, it says: "The two completed the cross-country drive in 50 hours and 16 minutes, setting a new electric Cannonball Run record." That's not quite the same as the headline... It looks like petrol cars have done it in under 27 hours http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2015/03/ny-la-26-hours-28-m...

But the title clearly says EV Cannonball Run Record , how is that unclear?

So EV's have their very own standards of speed, convenience and usability. And if an EV is ONLY TWICE AS SLOW going across the country than a gasoline car, then that's AMAZING.

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Post by delive »

aphextron wrote: post #156
InTheArena wrote: post #50

I drove the Model 3 last week. It’s a properly good car in it’s own right - It reminded me of the MOdel 3 from BMS in how it handles, of course the performance curve is totally different. The rethinking of the dashboard is perfect for the cell phone age. It’s Apple Good (back when Apple was good). The performance curve - the instant power at any point is addicting. The seats were comfortable, and the trunk space was…

>With a Bolt, there are places that you just can’t go. This just isn't true, check plugshare.com. It is now possible to drive cross-country in any EV with fast charging.

"Can't go" is probably the wrong term, but rather it's not very practical without a Tesla. "fast-charging" just isn't that fast in the US for non-tesla setups. 50kW max (which you don't normally get, usually it's something less) requires you to stop for at least an hour every 2-3 hours in a Bolt.

Add in winter conditions and driving at the usual ~75MPH and it gets worse than that. I wouldn't attempt any trip longer than ~200 miles in anything but a Tesla because even the superchargers at 130kW make it just ~bearable once the supercharger novelty wears off.

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Post by gcheong »

juanmirocks wrote: post #71

Arguably, Tesla & Elon Musk already achieved their goal of speeding up the adoption to EVs away from combustion engines: all car companies are working now on or have plans for electric vehicles. Elon Musk has already succeeded big big time.

Guessing it's more likely due to California's ZEV mandate.

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Post by perfectstorm »

arkh wrote: post #112

How much time spent charging? Charging time is what make petrol win. Drive 500 miles, take 5mn to charge up and you're good for 500 more miles. Until EV can do this (surely through charging stations like petrol cars) they won't good at anything more than daily commute if you can plug your car at at home and at work. So battery technology is where the interest should be. We already know how to make efficient electric…

good point. I would like to see battery swapping and I believe Tesla had plans for that but was temporarily suspended to focus on super chargers.

Hopefully Tesla would start leasing car batteries so we could drive over a ramp and get our depleted battery replaced by a fully charged one in minutes and drive off for another 300+ miles.

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Post by imglorp »

noveltyaccount wrote: post #76
InTheArena wrote: post #50

I drove the Model 3 last week. It’s a properly good car in it’s own right - It reminded me of the MOdel 3 from BMS in how it handles, of course the performance curve is totally different. The rethinking of the dashboard is perfect for the cell phone age. It’s Apple Good (back when Apple was good). The performance curve - the instant power at any point is addicting. The seats were comfortable, and the trunk space was…

> With a Volt, there are places that you just can’t go. To be fair, you can charge any EV fairly quickly at any campground with 220V RV hookups. With adequate planning, I think you could drive a Bolt anywhere.

Important distinction: there is both the Volt--which has a gas engine for when the battery runs down--and the Bolt--battery only.

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Post by juanmirocks »

kinard wrote: post #136
juanmirocks wrote: post #71

Arguably, Tesla & Elon Musk already achieved their goal of speeding up the adoption to EVs away from combustion engines: all car companies are working now on or have plans for electric vehicles. Elon Musk has already succeeded big big time.

Without a doubt, It seems like everyone is playing catchup, I'm still shocked how far behind the German car manufacturers are. I recently switched from a BMW M5 to a model S. It's been a great switch for me. Slightly lacking in build quality but made up for in that 0-60 excitement!

Spot on. I live in Germany and fear for its car industry. Still, I hear good things coming from Audi or even still BMW. Mal sehen.
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