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How Australia Bungled Its $36B High-Speed Internet Rollout

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>Seriously it is time for a citizens revolution. We need to take the country back from these idiots. Nothing can be done until Australians demand Constitution reform. This is the crux of the problems with Australian politics - its Constitution is absolutely atrocious.

The fact we don't have a Bill of Rights (or even an equivalent to the First Amendment) is ridiculous. But on the plus side we stopped with the ridiculous gun-toting crap 20 years ago, so some parts of our constitution are more reasonable than other countries. One of the more worrying issues is that the Governor-General (and thus by proxy the Queen of fucking England) has vito power over our laws.

Its worse than you think. The Australian Constitution is highly racist. One set of laws for whites, another for the natives. This should be the first thing we fix.

Then of course, there's the fact that Australia is a British dependency. This needs to go. Australia is not a sovereign state - it is a colonial property. Yes, even still today.

The Constitution also doesn't protect the Australian Parliament as a democratic institution. It doesn't address, nor protect, the Australian environment. Equality: not guaranteed, at all, by the Constitution.

There are just so many things wrong with it.

Re: How Australia Bungled Its $36B High-Speed Internet Rollout

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>Seriously it is time for a citizens revolution. We need to take the country back from these idiots. Nothing can be done until Australians demand Constitution reform. This is the crux of the problems with Australian politics - its Constitution is absolutely atrocious.

Which parts of the constitution do you think are bad?

You can get started here:

https://independentaustralia.net/australia/australia-display...

Re: How Australia Bungled Its $36B High-Speed Internet Rollout

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We don't need a bill of rights. I have never had anyone give me a convincing argument on why a bill of rights is needed. Also, its veto, not vito and the Governor General's reserve powers are a check on the Government. In the history of the Commonwealth of Australia these powers have been used twice: 1) On 13 May 1932, when the Governor of New South Wales Sir Philip Game dismissed the Government of New South Wales. 2…

> We don't need a bill of rights. I have never had anyone give me a convincing argument on why a bill of rights is needed. We don't have any legal (let alone constitutional) right to freedom of expression, freedom of assembly and a few other freedoms that are present in the US bill of rights. There are some laws that provide protections for certain kinds of political speech, but those are incredibly narrow compared t…

The Australian Constitution does not explicitly protect freedom of expression. However, the High Court has held that an implied freedom of political communication exists as an indispensible part of the system of representative and responsible government created by the Constitution. It operates as a freedom from government restraint, rather than a right conferred directly on individuals.

In Nationwide News Pty Ltd v Wills (1992) 177 CLR 1 and Australian Capital Television Pty Ltd v the Commonwealth (1992) 177 CLR 106, the majority of the High Court held that an implied freedom of political communication exists as an incident of the system of representative government established by the Constitution. This was reaffirmed in Unions NSW v New South Wales [2013] HCA 58.

This right is limited by certain laws a.k.a Section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act.

Re: How Australia Bungled Its $36B High-Speed Internet Rollout

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The NBN is a tale of geography. If you live in the CBD mainland capital city you will get good coverage. Even that it's patchy. If you live more than 30km out access get mostly worse. If you live in the bush, the best you'll get is crappy satellite or your own jury rigged antenna to the nearest town. If you were lucky enough to a) live close to the city b) have telephone poles c) live near a telephone exchange and we…

I was pleasantly surprised my place had FTTN (100/50 I think I can get if needed). Absolute boondocks of Tassie, mostly agricultural/tradesfolk I'd guess. Seems odd but I'm glad they did.

Thats because Tasmania was selected as the pilot location of the NBN roll-out[1] [2]

[1] https://www.itnews.com.au/news/nbn-co-prepares-2015-finish-d...

[2] http://www.smh.com.au/national/devil-in-the-detail-20100201-...

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Re: How Australia Bungled Its $36B High-Speed Internet Rollout

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> The budget was already blowing out beyond 2x the cost According to partisan figures that were often repeated but never justified. I don't doubt it would have blown out, world class infrastructure would have been worth it at twice the cost. Instead we have the current NBN who's costs have blown out just as much to delivery 20th century infrastructure.

> According to partisan figures that were often repeated but never justified. I mean if you pretend that the $30~ billion paid to telstra had absolutely nothing to do with the NBN then yea you can avoid the 2x figure but I still have no idea how you can say the two things are completely unrelated. > Instead we have the current NBN who's costs have blown out just as much to delivery 20th century infrastructure. How? I…

Except the $30 Billion did have to do with the NBN. NNBN Co wanted access to that nationwide system of cables, ducts, phone exchanges and other infrastructure to form the basis of its network as it would make the build faster, cheaper and avoid duplicating assets [1]. Also please note that the deal was made by Labor and not by the Liberals.

[1] http://www.smh.com.au/business/telstras-nbn-deal--what-it-me...

Re: How Australia Bungled Its $36B High-Speed Internet Rollout

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Gb, damn autocorrect haha.

Same question though. Consumer stuff rarely has over 1Gbit, WiFi doesn't go beyond that either.

Well my PC is hard wired, so I can pull 1gb on my system, that leaves room for my wife's of/our phones/ etc.

I'm actually looking into a new system atm(due for a full upgrade) and am trying to see how I can fully utilise that on my PC.

Edit: typos, fat thumbs again

Re: How Australia Bungled Its $36B High-Speed Internet Rollout

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Thankfully, the unhinged racist who drew it just shuffled off this mortal coil. He had many more which were just as terrible as this.

The cartoon wasn't racist, it's your own bias that makes you think it is.

oh ok
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