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Re: Social Media Needs a Travel Mode

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Post by tptacek »

kasey_junk wrote: post #144
tptacek wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem with that is that CBP can (and surely soon will) compel travelers to log into their accounts from CBP's own equipment.

Sure. But a setting that said "always on mobile" and another one where they schedule it for me based on my airline emails makes uptake faster. And I want that when I'm traveling anywhere . [later] we want to normalize the idea that access permission to our data is context aware based on what we are doing. To me this is true independent of border crossings. For instance there are things I want in the cloud for backup…

Yes! Sorry, we were agreeing but I well-actuallied you.

Re: Social Media Needs a Travel Mode

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Post by tptacek »

turc1656 wrote: post #130
dublinben wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thankfully, as US citizens we are free to establish a norm of using features like this, with no fear of deportation.

If you are willing to do this, then why not just say "no" to the CBP and DHS? You must be allowed in if you are a citizen so the only risk is them keeping your phone for a few weeks while they try to hack it to get inside. I believe they are required to send it back to you once they are done by law or agency policy. That's what I plan to do if I ever get asked - telling them to piss off. Worst they can do is confisca…

Because you already know you will "win" the game of chicken between a citizen and CBP, but that win does nothing for non-citizens, for whom CBP has potent recourse.

Re: Social Media Needs a Travel Mode

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Post by [deleted] »

turc1656 wrote: post #130
dublinben wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thankfully, as US citizens we are free to establish a norm of using features like this, with no fear of deportation.

If you are willing to do this, then why not just say "no" to the CBP and DHS? You must be allowed in if you are a citizen so the only risk is them keeping your phone for a few weeks while they try to hack it to get inside. I believe they are required to send it back to you once they are done by law or agency policy. That's what I plan to do if I ever get asked - telling them to piss off. Worst they can do is confisca…

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Re: Social Media Needs a Travel Mode

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Post by waterphone »

tptacek wrote: post #36
waterphone wrote: post #34

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Then if border agents really want to get in to a particular individual's device, they'll just detain them (or seize their device) until trip mode automatically turns off.

They would be required to detain people for an indeterminate amount of time, potentially weeks. The idea is that it's impractical (and also illegal) for them to do that. If enough people travel-locked their accounts, invasive social media monitoring would be off the table.

Would they? If someone is traveling for a week and presets their social media account to be in travel mode for 1 week, wouldn't they then just need to be detained for a week until the lock expired?

Re: Social Media Needs a Travel Mode

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Post by lacampbell »

MBlume wrote: post #171
Oxitendwe wrote: post #158

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>even in the happiest timeline we could have ended up on after 2016 I'm not really sure why you mentioned this, did something bad happen?

Yes, an incompetent autoocrat got elected to the highest government office of the most powerful nation on earth. You almost certainly already knew this.

That happens every 4 years.

Re: Social Media Needs a Travel Mode

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Post by lacampbell »

Kluny wrote: post #176

Instead of that, I'd like a way to clone everything on my phone and save it on a USB. Every app, logins, contacts, photos, settings, factory updates, wallpaper, lock screen password, everything, in an encrypted archive that I can put on a USB in my checked baggage, or mail ahead to my destination, upload to my personal server, whatever. Then I'll just do a factory reset, install some cover apps, and go. Then reinstal…

Why would putting something in your checked baggage or sending something via mail be an impediment to a state that wants your information?

Re: Social Media Needs a Travel Mode

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Post by foreigner »

What if you changed your password to something really long and not memorable before you leave home? Print it out on a piece of paper and leave it in a safe. You can't be forced to produce a password you don't remember. When you get home, open the safe and change your password back to something you know.

Re: Social Media Needs a Travel Mode

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Post by foreigner »

foreigner wrote: post #189

What if you changed your password to something really long and not memorable before you leave home? Print it out on a piece of paper and leave it in a safe. You can't be forced to produce a password you don't remember. When you get home, open the safe and change your password back to something you know.

Although I guess they could force you to go through the reset password flow, so you would have to cripple that as well...
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