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Living in Switzerland ruined me for America and its lousy work culture (2016)

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Re: Living in Switzerland ruined me for America and its lousy work culture (2016)

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Why would growth be bounded depending on the cause of that growth? Genuine question, not trying to be snarky. 50 years might be an unrealistic timeframe for China, but then again who knows? Putting aside my personal view that they're going to either stagnate or go backwards within the next decade, it doesn't seem impossible. Although they're obviously much much smaller, Singapore is an example of a country that went…

> Why would growth be bounded depending on the cause of that growth? Totally fair question. I didn't mean specific causes are bounded (it doesn't matter if your conductors are yttrium or graphene), but I wasn't terribly clear. What I mean is that relative-growth gains are bounded in a way that absolute-growth gains aren't. Relative growth (i.e. cutting better trade deals, capturing more share and profit on what exist…

Thanks for the well thought out reply. I think what you say is sensible in the context of relative growth. I suppose the two factors that might allow relative growth of one country's economy to be net positive growth globally would be (a) gains specialisation and trade and (b) advancement in technology (in a sense, one of the aspects of 'efficiency' you discussed above). It seems easy enough to argue one way or the other about how much scope these factors create for 'net positive relative growth', but I would definitely agree it's bounded at some level.

It's a good point about Yew having the advantage of a near-autocracy. Although it might sometimes appear that way to us westerners, this is not entirely the case in China. I have noticed though that there is a (not entirely unjustified) stain of thought that authoritarian government is better able to implement unpopular, but growth positive, government economic policy. It's just my vague concern with nothing to really back it up, but I can't help but feel were slowly sliding towards illiberal 'democracy' in much of the first-world anglosphere. Hopefully I'm mistaken, as I quite like genuine liberal democracy.

The computerisation point is a very interesting one. Putting aside the possibility it's a measurement issue, one other theory I've seen posits that computerisation more often leads to cannibalisation of industries, rather than creation. Albeit these argument generally acknowledge that minor (but still positive) gain are made from higher industrial efficiency. My own pet theory is that computerisation has turned many markets into 'winner-takes-all' markets, meaning gains from efficiency have been translated into (highly concentrated) private wealth much more than they have led to broader increases in economic growth. I think there are two factors at play here: (1) the positive network externalities often associated with computerised markets and (2) the 'always increasing' economies of scale that purely (or mostly) computerised services enjoy, due to the non-rivalrous nature of their consumption.

I'd be very interested to hear your theories if you're willing to share :)

Re: Living in Switzerland ruined me for America and its lousy work culture (2016)

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I don't want a work-life balance. Sure, the Swiss model is very attractive for a person in a certain phase of life with a certain attitude toward work --- one for whom work is something distinct from life. Me? I want the freedom to pour myself into something I love. I'd rather spend 60 hours per week using all of my faculties to produce something worthwhile than to spend 35 or 40 hours just trading my time for money,…

Nothing prevents you to pour yourself into something in Switzerland.

I think having bones prevents this.

Re: Living in Switzerland ruined me for America and its lousy work culture (2016)

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It's all one damn earth. People already take advantage of each other. Why worry about the person next door? At least they aren't trying to kill you.

> At least they aren't trying to kill you. Depends. Most are not, but in some cases, they are (e.g. islamic terrorism in France and Germany). But the main reason is that some peoples/places have developed their own culture over centuries, and don't particularly appreciate some large rush of newcomers bringing their own stuff and messing the nice thing they have got going.

In Europe, you're more likely to die of lung cancer than terrorist attack. It's a load of crap that you'll meet anyone in your life who will genuinely try to end your life. Sure, you might be unlikely, but you also might win the lottery.

With respect to culture.... I don't know what to say to that. It strikes me as very xenophobic and more than a little naive. The way to get your culture to remain is by showing others what is to celebrate about it, not by forbidding them from living around you. It's not like any culture can exist long unchanged while children have access to the internet anyway.

Re: Living in Switzerland ruined me for America and its lousy work culture (2016)

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Fair. Seems like it isn't 5 but 4 weeks that is mandatory in the EU.

It's 5 + national holidays.

I am not doubting you though when i tried to look it up I found the EU requirement to be 20 days + national holidays (e.g. ireland, italy, Czech Republic,...). How would this be allowed if the EU requires 25 days?

Re: Living in Switzerland ruined me for America and its lousy work culture (2016)

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Can you name a place that doesn't have that? I've lived in three different (Western) countries and felt the same thing in all of them.

you've lived in three western countries for 10+ years each, and your mother tongue is one of the official languages of the 'foreign' nation?

If I understand your question correctly, then yes.
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