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Xiaomi unveils concept phone with near bezel-less display

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Re: Xiaomi unveils concept phone with near bezel-less display

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Post by jshevek »

Mithaldu wrote: post #132
LeifCarrotson wrote: post #48

Things I don't particularly care about in a phone: - Bezel size - Weight - Thickness - Manufacturer-specific apps and skins - Screen resolution beyond that of my eyes - Fastest possible processor Things I care about in a phone: - Ability to make calls - Battery life - Replaceable battery - Fits in my pocket - Expandable storage - Durable - Decent camera - Inexpensive - Gets security updates And what do the latest pho…

Bezel size matters to me. I'd like to have enough of it to be able to grab the phone solidly by the sides without activating things on the screen. Making it smaller is sheer insanity, unless you're only targeting people who lay their phone in one hand and operate it with the other.

I'm not sure where Samsung and Xiaomi are with this, but software can be used to accurately evaluate whether touches near the bezel are intended as UI events (vs simply holding or picking up the phone).

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Post by megablast »

illicium wrote: post #177
GFischer wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quite a lot of people have asked me about a small but powerful Android phone, and there are none! It's incredible, but all companies go in the same direction. In the very few instances when they do innovate, they go in really odd directions (curve displays, in-built projectors), but they don't address basic stuff like size or physical keyboard.

That is because: powerful = power hungry = requires a large battery != small.

So you have never heard of the iPhone SE??

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Post by paulddraper »

justinhj wrote: post #60
LeifCarrotson wrote: post #48

Things I don't particularly care about in a phone: - Bezel size - Weight - Thickness - Manufacturer-specific apps and skins - Screen resolution beyond that of my eyes - Fastest possible processor Things I care about in a phone: - Ability to make calls - Battery life - Replaceable battery - Fits in my pocket - Expandable storage - Durable - Decent camera - Inexpensive - Gets security updates And what do the latest pho…

Sounds like you'd be fine with a flip phone from 10 years ago and a small high quality camera. You don't seem to be the target audience for the latest smartphones.

What part of his list is incongruous with checking email or using Facebook?

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Post by ams6110 »

paulddraper wrote: post #183
justinhj wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like you'd be fine with a flip phone from 10 years ago and a small high quality camera. You don't seem to be the target audience for the latest smartphones.

What part of his list is incongruous with checking email or using Facebook?

That he didn't list those things?

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Post by voltagex_ »

ewheeler wrote: post #14
curiousgal wrote: post #10

The problem with most chinese brands (Xiaomi, Mijue, etc.) is the non-existing software updates.

I have the Xiaomi Mi4C, which gets an OTA update every week. Most changes are cosmetic, but typically includes substantive android security updates at least monthly.

Interestingly, my Mi4C never received OTA updates because there was a typo in "update.xiaomi.com" in the stock firmware.

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Post by ktsmith »

threeseed wrote: post #123
ktsmith wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree that bezel size matters but not for the reason you mentioned. When I hold a phone or tablet in landscape mode I need a place to comfortably be able to have a portion of my hand touch without interacting with the screen. The iPhone, iPad and now Google Pixel all have larger bezels at the top and bottom which are perfect for having your thumbs or another part of the hand touch without interacting with the app y…

Apple has been very good with the iPad Pro at detecting and eliminating false touches using machine learning models.

The iPad Pro is a different beast entirely than the iPhone or the iPad or iPad Mini. I think the use cases are fairly significantly different and so it can make more sense to change bezel sizes and other things about it. That being said I don't find the iPad Pro, in my admittedly somewhat limited use, to be particularly good at detecting accidental presses and so the majority of my use has been with it on a surface.

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Post by yakult »

LeifCarrotson wrote: post #48

Things I don't particularly care about in a phone: - Bezel size - Weight - Thickness - Manufacturer-specific apps and skins - Screen resolution beyond that of my eyes - Fastest possible processor Things I care about in a phone: - Ability to make calls - Battery life - Replaceable battery - Fits in my pocket - Expandable storage - Durable - Decent camera - Inexpensive - Gets security updates And what do the latest pho…

The point of small bezel is that you can fit a bigger screen onto the same form factor, which is a definite win.

I agree that battery life is underappreciated, but not about the replaceable battery - again, nonreplaceable means you can squeeze in a bigger battery in the same FF.

I personally don't play mobile games, and I feel that outside of gaming the demand for faster CPU and more ram has basically plateau'd. My perfect phone would be bezelless, big power efficient screen, huge nonreplaceable battery, midrange power-efficient SOC, and tweaked software to give even more battery life. The camera should be good enough for taking pictures of typed text but is otherwise an afterthought.

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Post by mastazi »

smnscu wrote: post #154
aembleton wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With Android there is such a huge choice of different phones that you can find one close to the one you'd like. Many people would like a thin high resolution display and don't care about many of the things you care about. They can buy different phones to you. Personally, I agree with your requirements and as a result have settled for the 2GB version of the Moto G (3rd gen) http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_g_(3rd…

The hardware is great, especially given the price, but I've never seen so many weird bugs and glitches (it's my first Android phone, funny enough). I've repeatedly had photos not saved, or corrupted, or otherwise other stuff fail randomly (my favorite is "Unfortunately, Android System has stopped"). The karate chop motion for the flashlight is brilliant, but triggers very randomly. Overall you just get an annoying fe…

Are you using an SD card? Try replacing it, that may be the culprit. I'm saying that because:

1- Those seem to be storage-related issues

2- I've had that phone for a long time and the only issues I had were due to a HW failure in my SD (which I then replaced).

Also, when you insert a new SD choose the "portable storage" mode because in my experience it tends to be more reliable.

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Post by adventurer »

AlexC04 wrote: post #159

I don't know, how "tightly coupled" is the glass of that screen with the rest of the device? I have an iPad pro. When the screen grew a crack, I called to inquire about the cost of a replacement screen and was quoted at roughly 2/3 the price of a new device. god bless the woman at Apple support who "pulled a string for me" and issued an RMA. the replacement has also grown a hairline fracture despite what I would cons…

I'm curious to know if any phone is made like this. The Surface is also almost impossible to replace on your own and about the same cost as you mention.

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Post by thro1237 »

LeifCarrotson wrote: post #48

Things I don't particularly care about in a phone: - Bezel size - Weight - Thickness - Manufacturer-specific apps and skins - Screen resolution beyond that of my eyes - Fastest possible processor Things I care about in a phone: - Ability to make calls - Battery life - Replaceable battery - Fits in my pocket - Expandable storage - Durable - Decent camera - Inexpensive - Gets security updates And what do the latest pho…

I use a Xiaomi Note 3. Decent 16 MP camera, the battery lasts a good 3 days. Fits in my pocket. Dual Sim. Expandable storage. I bought it for approx $200. http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_redmi_note_3-7863.php
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