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Re: Fix Windows 10

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Post by sliverstorm »

frik wrote: post #176
billyhoffman wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We used to say the same thing about application software. However Chrome's auto-update feature has been a tremendous benefit. I would argue this is a reasonable direction for consumer OSes to go

A browser is one thing, it's just an application. The OS is the lowest layer, if you can't control it, you can't trust it. And there is always the option to stop the update in Chrome. If you don't run the OS behind a hardware firewall that can scramble SSL, Win10 will send a lot of data unfiltered and non-optional to its vendor - unacceptable for an operating system (the lowest layer).

if you can't control it, you can't trust it

Exactly, which is why Microsoft and enterprise IT like to control the updates. If they can't control the updates, they can't trust the computer!

Unpatched, dated, or even EoL OS versions has been a big problem for a long time, and it's arguably even more serious of an issue than dated versions of Chrome.

You want that control for yourself, and I can relate to that, but 99% of users cannot be trusted with that control which is why this happened.

Re: Fix Windows 10

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Post by MikeTV »

Any scripts out there that go on the offensive, rather than just opting me out? Something that sends reams of plausible data to Microsoft so that any semblance of usefulness is lost in the chaff.

Re: Fix Windows 10

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Post by cbd1984 »

cholantesh wrote: post #166
stan_rogers wrote: post #155

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"[X] could care less" is idiomatic English, not a mistake. It may have been an identifiable Yiddishism at one time, but it's a naturalized citizen at this point, and has been for decades. If you are looking for a living language in natural, everyday use to conform to some sort of formal logic, you have a lifetime of disappointment ahead of you.

Idiomatic _American_ English, perhaps, but even otherwise, it's still a grammatical error. Just one that's become ubiquitous to the point that speakers in one place don't care or don't notice.

If it's ubiquitous, how is it an error? Where do you think the grammar of a living language comes from?

Re: Fix Windows 10

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Post by joesmo »

Raphmedia wrote: post #102
joesmo wrote: post #52

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Cortana is not an essential part of the OS. Malware databases can exist locally. You're just making excuses for MS's anti-privacy architecture.

My personal computer is not a phone. I do not require the help of a spyware disguised as an AI to operate it. I have a mouse and a full keyboard. When I want to interact with the internet, I use a browser. This browser is managed by many extensions that cut down on the information that is being sent about me. I do not want my operating system to talk to the internet without asking me.

Well put. That's exactly my feeling. Even on a phone, a voice based helper should be opt-in as it's not an essential feature and not everyone wants to use it, but everyone wants to not be recorded by default.

Re: Fix Windows 10

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Post by joesmo »

JustSomeNobody wrote: post #174
joesmo wrote: post #47

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"And how do we expect things like Windows Defender or Microsoft's handwriting and voice recognition to improve if we refuse to share back any anonymized information with Microsoft?" Exactly by not sharing any information with MS. If they didn't assume that people wanted to share their private information (they don't), they'd create software with proper architecture that doesn't need to connect to the could to do simp…

Little known fact: Those are not _simple_ things.

They are simple enough to run on the hardware itself without needing cloud support.

Re: Fix Windows 10

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Post by joesmo »

Mithaldu wrote: post #113
joesmo wrote: post #47

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"And how do we expect things like Windows Defender or Microsoft's handwriting and voice recognition to improve if we refuse to share back any anonymized information with Microsoft?" Exactly by not sharing any information with MS. If they didn't assume that people wanted to share their private information (they don't), they'd create software with proper architecture that doesn't need to connect to the could to do simp…

> simple things like handwriting analysis and voice recognition I honestly can't tell if you actually believe what you are saying, or are just making a really badly told joke.

I'm not making a joke. There's no need for cloud computing resources for effective voice recognition or handwriting analysis. Therefore, since those applications can run on the device itself, they are rather simple from a network perspective which is what we're discussing here.

Re: Fix Windows 10

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Post by [deleted] »

Mithaldu wrote: post #113
joesmo wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"And how do we expect things like Windows Defender or Microsoft's handwriting and voice recognition to improve if we refuse to share back any anonymized information with Microsoft?" Exactly by not sharing any information with MS. If they didn't assume that people wanted to share their private information (they don't), they'd create software with proper architecture that doesn't need to connect to the could to do simp…

> simple things like handwriting analysis and voice recognition I honestly can't tell if you actually believe what you are saying, or are just making a really badly told joke.

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Re: Fix Windows 10

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Post by JadeNB »

slg wrote: post #80
mhurron wrote: post #42

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> like sharing of Windows updates with other computers to speed up downloads American internet speeds suck enough without Microsoft grabbing some for itself. > Windows Defender They seemed to be able to improve their services before. In fact, I think that's what a Security Researchers job is. MS has several of them. > handwriting and voice recognition Neither of which apply to my desktop, so why do I have to give the…

>American internet speeds suck enough without Microsoft grabbing some for itself. Which is why you should only have to download updates once for your entire network and not per device and why you shouldn't waste bandwidth on failed partial updates. This feature fixes both of these issues. >They seemed to be able to improve their services before. In fact, I think that's what a Security Researchers job is. MS has sever…

> If you don't use voice or ink, why are you worried about sharing your voice and ink data with Microsoft?

This sounds uncomfortably like "if you don't have anything to hide …".

Re: Fix Windows 10

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Post by dragonwriter »

slg wrote: post #31

I can't help but feel like some of this is fear mongering. There are some good features in there that are being disabled for the sake of "privacy" like sharing of Windows updates with other computers to speed up downloads. And how do we expect things like Windows Defender or Microsoft's handwriting and voice recognition to improve if we refuse to share back any anonymized information with Microsoft?

> Microsoft's handwriting and voice recognition to improve if we refuse to share back any anonymized information with Microsoft?

Handwriting and voice recognition software have both been available for decades, and have improved considerably over most of that time without most end-users being required to share data back with the software makers (in many cases, without most users even having a mechanism available to do so.)

Re: Fix Windows 10

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Post by yuhong »

drdaeman wrote: post #125
slg wrote: post #31

I can't help but feel like some of this is fear mongering. There are some good features in there that are being disabled for the sake of "privacy" like sharing of Windows updates with other computers to speed up downloads. And how do we expect things like Windows Defender or Microsoft's handwriting and voice recognition to improve if we refuse to share back any anonymized information with Microsoft?

> And how do we expect things like Windows Defender or Microsoft's handwriting and voice recognition to improve if we refuse to share back any anonymized information with Microsoft? By opt-in approach and full transparency on what data's sent. Seriously, ask me "hey, can you help us?", provide an option to let me see what data exactly was, being and will be sent (NOT some multi-page legalese with notice that everythi…

How exactly? Would broad categories be enough?
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