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Firefox 27 Released

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Re: Firefox 27 Released

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Post by skion »

hnwhatevz wrote: post #149
erichurkman wrote: post #67

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How's My SSL? [1] now reports "Your SSL client is Probably Okay." for Firefox 27. Awesome! [1] https://www.howsmyssl.com/

Fedora 20 (firefox 26), "Your SSL client is Bad." :(

I just fixed that by setting:

  security.tls.version.max = 3
  security.tls.version.min = 1
  security.ssl3.rsa_fips_des_ede3_sha = false
in about:config, after which it also said "Probably good" for FF26.

Re: Firefox 27 Released

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Post by keehun »

iagooar wrote: post #34

Some time ago I was a Firefox user. Then Chrome came out and I first started using it for free-time browsing, while still developing on Firefox. Later, I decided to fully migrate to Chrome. I've decided to change it again, so I'm going to give Firefox a try during this month. For now, it looks really nice, performance seems to be quite good and the feeling of getting at least a small part of my digital life away from…

Firefox just simply never lives up to the experience I get from Chrome or Chromium. It crashes very often on certain pages (harmless and trustworthy pages from sites that shouldn't be causing crashes) and extensions like 1Password just don't work properly all the time and scrolling/performance is never as good as Chrome. I always give it a third/fourth/fifth chance but can't stand Firefox for more than five minutes.

Re: Firefox 27 Released

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Post by mda »

ris wrote: post #168
mda wrote: post #159

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Really? Care to give an example?

I don't really want to have to go into process security from scratch, but I have previously commented on this https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6811368 "Sandboxing" and "process separation" are not magic smoke.

Oh sure, they are not magic smoke indeed. Still, how do you explain that Use after free bugs are marked Critical in Firefox but High on Chrome? Seems like Chrome is doing a little bit better in security department.

https://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/firef...

http://googlechromereleases.blogspot.ch/search/label/Stable%...

Re: Firefox 27 Released

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Post by davexunit »

sethish wrote: post #124
davexunit wrote: post #95

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>I'd be really happy if Firefox convinced me to stay, as I really love what Mozilla is doing for the web community. If you love what they are doing then I urge you to stick with Firefox in the future. Firefox is the only major browser that is free software. Chrome is proprietary and sends a lot of your data to Google. Google entices a lot of programmers with their developer tools, but it's not worth trading freedom f…

Chromium, the open-source-only version of Chrome is also a viable option.

Chromium is mostly free software, but it's sketchy enough territory that afaik no fully free GNU/Linux distribution packages it.

Re: Firefox 27 Released

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Post by jlgaddis »

dangayle wrote: post #75
nfoz wrote: post #17

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I would much rather a long-term-stable product with fewer security vulnerabilities that didn't need frequent updates.

How did that work for the TOR browser? It didn't.

I assume you're referring to the Firefox vulnerability that was exploited to attempt to identify users of the Tor Browser Bundle?

FWIW, that had also been fixed by the Tor Project and a newer version of TBB was available. The users who had upgraded were not vulnerable.

Re: Firefox 27 Released

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Post by jlgaddis »

zebulom wrote: post #86
pekk wrote: post #60

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Then Flash prompts for an update, then Acrobat Reader, then Java...

Then Mozilla Thunderbird, then TortoiseGit, then TortoitseSVN, then Sublime Text Editor, then Notepad++, then Notepad++ informs me there is an update of a plugin that I never use, then VLC media player, then Google Chrome, then Oracle VirtualBox, then Visual Studio proudly announces a service pack, then Windows informs me that it wants to reboot in 10 minutes.

I have a Windows 7 PC but it is only used perhaps once every week or two (and usually for just a few minutes at a time). It's certainly not the best tool I've ever seen but Chocolatey [0] makes keeping (nearly all) my installed applications up-to-date very easy.

[0]: http://chocolatey.org/

Re: Firefox 27 Released

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Post by jlgaddis »

duggelz wrote: post #156
JetSpiegel wrote: post #132

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Like some kind of package manager? On Windows? Good luck with that!

If you run windows and don't use Ninite yet, let me make your day: https://ninite.com/updater/

http://chocolatey.org/

Open up a command prompt ...

  C:\> cup
... and done.

Re: Firefox 27 Released

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Post by ndesaulniers »

ZoFreX wrote: post #169
ndesaulniers wrote: post #147

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> tab leaks it can freeze the whole browser Process per tab is _almost_ ready: http://billmccloskey.wordpress.com/2013/12/05/multiprocess-f... You can play with it by setting `browser.tabs.remote` to true in about:config.

I don't even want process per tab, I'd be happy with something much simpler: Tell me which tab is causing Firefox to use 100% CPU! This happens fairly frequently with lots of tabs open (I guess I use a lot of websites with really bad javascript) and the only recourse is to either quit Firefox entirely and re-open it, or play a guessing game.

Firefox will stop any client side JavaScript after 5-6s and ask whether you want to keep running the slow running script or not. If will even change to that tab before prompting you. Isn't that what you just described?

Re: Firefox 27 Released

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Post by ris »

mda wrote: post #173
ris wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't really want to have to go into process security from scratch, but I have previously commented on this https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6811368 "Sandboxing" and "process separation" are not magic smoke.

Oh sure, they are not magic smoke indeed. Still, how do you explain that Use after free bugs are marked Critical in Firefox but High on Chrome? Seems like Chrome is doing a little bit better in security department. https://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/firef... http://googlechromereleases.blogspot.ch/search/label/Stable%...

Because they have different classification systems/schemes?

Are you really asking me this?

Re: Firefox 27 Released

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Post by elclanrs »

acqq wrote: post #130
dorkrawk wrote: post #87

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I love the new Australus UI. I've been playing around on Nightly for a bit and I can't wait until that gets rolled into the main branch.

It looks very bad to me, doing everything against the UI conventions of the OS. The menu gone from the top right, why oh why? Didn't Firefox success started with being more "native" (close to the OS UI) than the predecessor? The history of bad decisions seems to repeat with every new generation? Mozilla guys, you really want to annoy your users again? Why?

Australis looks nice in Ubuntu. The new menu is much better with big icons and can be customized however you like it. It's great IMO. I took a couple screenshots from latest nightly release. http://i.imgur.com/19Iwy7r.png, http://i.imgur.com/6Kouk14.png
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