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Firefox 27 Released

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Re: Firefox 27 Released

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Post by nikbackm »

codereflection wrote: post #48
blinkingled wrote: post #38

I am using FF on Android (both phone and tablet) with sync and great addons like adblock/self destructing cookies/lastpass and am mostly a happy camper. Mozilla has resolved most of the performance issues barring one - compared to Chrome or stock browser the time it takes for FF to go from link tapped to page loading started is a bit annoyingly high. Many times after tapping a link it just sits there doing nothing or…

Me too, the time it takes to initially load a link is really long compared to Chrome, even on a quad core mobile device. I hope they resolve this soon.

Hmm, might that be due to Chrome pre-fetching the page?

Re: Firefox 27 Released

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Post by mpyne »

itry wrote: post #62
ianbicking wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It does, but if you want to update immediately go to About, there's a button there to update.

No, there is no button. Maybe because its "Mozilla Firefox for Linux Mint"? Did they fork Firefox and disabled updates?

If you install via a package manager on Linux then generally you can only update the browser through the package manager. On my Gentoo box that's how I have to upgrade chromium and firefox.

Re: Firefox 27 Released

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Post by _ZeD_ »

AlexanderDhoore wrote: post #52
swannodette wrote: post #20

I see no one has mentioned Firefox 27 is the first major browser to have ES6 generators enabled by default - http://swannodette.github.io/2013/08/24/es6-generators-and-c... . Callback hell begone!

I realised yesterday that "yield" in Python (and I guess javascript) is kind of a baby continuation ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuation ). It can be used to create coroutines and turn async code into sync (looking) code. Really powerful. Anyone interested should learn what continuations are (in Scheme).

take a look at http://www.dabeaz.com/coroutines/Coroutines.pdf

Re: Firefox 27 Released

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Post by zobzu »

itry wrote: post #62
ianbicking wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It does, but if you want to update immediately go to About, there's a button there to update.

No, there is no button. Maybe because its "Mozilla Firefox for Linux Mint"? Did they fork Firefox and disabled updates?

generally distros do that yes. because they ship updates through their own package manager (in this case apt) instead

if you get firefox directly from mozilla you'll have mozilla autoupdates.

in general, both are fine..

Re: Firefox 27 Released

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Post by davexunit »

iagooar wrote: post #34

Some time ago I was a Firefox user. Then Chrome came out and I first started using it for free-time browsing, while still developing on Firefox. Later, I decided to fully migrate to Chrome. I've decided to change it again, so I'm going to give Firefox a try during this month. For now, it looks really nice, performance seems to be quite good and the feeling of getting at least a small part of my digital life away from…

>I'd be really happy if Firefox convinced me to stay, as I really love what Mozilla is doing for the web community.

If you love what they are doing then I urge you to stick with Firefox in the future. Firefox is the only major browser that is free software. Chrome is proprietary and sends a lot of your data to Google. Google entices a lot of programmers with their developer tools, but it's not worth trading freedom for.

Re: Firefox 27 Released

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Post by cromwellian »

kyrra wrote: post #41

One interesting this is that all JS_ exports in their libraries have been removed. This kills support for things like GWT DevMode [0] among other plugins. This is good for security, bad for GWT. [0] https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/Google-Web-Toolkit/Q...

Yes, we knew this was long in coming. Chrome is yanking similar support in NPAPI as well. That's why 2 years ago we started working on SuperDevMode. This happened a little quicker than we had planned, but some upcoming changes to the GWT compiler will make it an incremental compiler more like JavaC, and in SuperDevMode, compile/refresh should be much much quicker when that lands.

On the IDE side, IntelliJ 13.0.2 can attach a debugger to Chrome and provide an in-IDE java debugging experience using source maps. Similar work is ongoing from James Nelson for the Eclipse plugin.

Firefox recently added support for column number support in stack traces, so eventually, Java IDE debugging using sourcemaps attached to Firefox JS debugger should be feasible.

In the mean time, GWT developers who use Firefox will need to stick to Firefox ESRs.

Re: Firefox 27 Released

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Post by snarkyturtle »

Anybody know when Firefox 28 will be released? That's the one I'm excited for since it'll finally fix a bug with Firefox and flex-wrap: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=939901

Edit: Looks like it'll release in March: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox/Releases/28

Worth noting for designers since it'll implement background-blend-mode too: https://medium.com/web-design-technique/6b51bf53743a

Re: Firefox 27 Released

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Post by paulirish »

cbaleanu wrote: post #79
rubiquity wrote: post #40

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I think you'll be quite impressed with Firefox's developer tools again. I've been more and more unhappy with Chrome's tools, mostly the subtle changes of not having filters and things so readily available anymore. The Firefox tools are quite slick though. I don't even use Firebug anymore.

So glad I am not the only one noticing the filter change. That additional click to display the filtering options that Chrome introduced really made me start using FF more and more for work. I think this dumbing-down approach Google is doing with all their apps and websites will only alienate more and more professionals out of using their platform.

(Chrome DevTools team here). We cleaned up the filtering as it was totally inconsistent across all panels. So now it introduces one more click, but felt like generally that extra click was OK. I think we can still improve the UX, however. Which panels do you most use filters on (and for what?) Console, Network?
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