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The $200 Billion Rip-Off: Our broadband future was stolen (2007)

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Re: The $200 Billion Rip-Off: Our broadband future was stolen (2007)

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WiFi is slow though, I just want a lan box. Start small in a part of the city populated by mostly young people - like university students. Buy ad time on the Discovery Channel. Run your cables through the air between buildings and over trees - it will fail with every storm, but it's cheap to replace. Hopefully you'll get big enough fast enough to put some proper cabling before regulation catches up with you.

>> WiFi is slow though, I just want a lan box. hahahaha :D OK, dear anon4, do you have idea what the fastest connection to the stock market today is, no? Hint, it's "wireless". High Frequency Trading set an arms race to have the best and fastest connection to the trade-market. Every nanosecond counts. TL;DR? Wireless is faster than Cable. Yup.

Nope. If you're not in the same datacenter you're too slow; all the HFT systems are in racks next to the exchange rack communicating over 10G Ethernet.

Source: actually working on an HFT project.

Re: The $200 Billion Rip-Off: Our broadband future was stolen (2007)

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>ability to rough it in a country that's still in the first world Does rough it mean suffer? I don't know if that's a point in favor... >We're also much less racist than Europe That's like comparing apples and oranges or countries and continents

The entirety of the US is more comparable to Europe as a whole than to any individual European country.

Indeed. There's an extreme inequality of quality of life and public services, and it shows up in statistics.

For instance, taken individually, Massachusetts has a higher Human Development Index than the fabled social-democratic paradise of Norway.

Re: The $200 Billion Rip-Off: Our broadband future was stolen (2007)

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>> WiFi is slow though, I just want a lan box. hahahaha :D OK, dear anon4, do you have idea what the fastest connection to the stock market today is, no? Hint, it's "wireless". High Frequency Trading set an arms race to have the best and fastest connection to the trade-market. Every nanosecond counts. TL;DR? Wireless is faster than Cable. Yup.

What I mean is that I currently get my internet via a LAN cable that goes into my router box. I have a tower PC hooked via a cable to it and a laptop that connects via WiFi. The tower can achieve the full 5 megabytes/sec I pay for, while WiFi maxes out at about 1½ mbytes/sec. It's slow.

It sounds as if either your laptop's wifi card is old or your router is. 5mb is nothing, 802.11n can easily handle that (its about 20) and dual band connections can push it a bit higher.

Where WiFi at home is breaking down is some cable companies are offering 30, 50, or more down. Then there is Fiber which just blows past what most people will get out of home WiFi networks.

Re: The $200 Billion Rip-Off: Our broadband future was stolen (2007)

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>> WiFi is slow though, I just want a lan box. hahahaha :D OK, dear anon4, do you have idea what the fastest connection to the stock market today is, no? Hint, it's "wireless". High Frequency Trading set an arms race to have the best and fastest connection to the trade-market. Every nanosecond counts. TL;DR? Wireless is faster than Cable. Yup.

What I mean is that I currently get my internet via a LAN cable that goes into my router box. I have a tower PC hooked via a cable to it and a laptop that connects via WiFi. The tower can achieve the full 5 megabytes/sec I pay for, while WiFi maxes out at about 1½ mbytes/sec. It's slow.

Are you getting your megabytes and your megabits the right way round? Either way, your wifi is so very slow and you probably have a fault.

Re: The $200 Billion Rip-Off: Our broadband future was stolen (2007)

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The functional difference between free speech in Australia and the United States isn't that strong. On the idealistic part of the spectrum, the US does win, but in terms of how it affects your life, they're pretty comparable. It is interesting to note that Australia is consistently rated superior to the US on the Press Freedom Index, and both are outscored by a passel of European countries. http://en.rsf.org/press-fr…

OK, to begin with, Australia still bans things. This is something the USA grew out of decades ago: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_Australia It's insane. Also, there are the defamation laws: https://www.efa.org.au/Issues/Censor/defamation.html > In theory, the objective of defamation laws is to balance protection of individual reputation with freedom of expression. In practice, defamation laws are frequent…

-- OK, to begin with, Australia still bans things. This is something the USA grew out of decades ago:

BULL and SHIT. In Australia, there is no routine pixellation of middle fingers, likewise pixellating the mouth of someone swearing.

It's an utter fabrication that there's no censorship on things in the US: It is a violation of federal law to air obscene programming at any time. It is also a violation of federal law to air indecent programming or profane language during certain hours.", from http://www.fcc.gov/guides/obscenity-indecency-and-profanity

And I've already mentioned the Press Freedom Index, which indicates the Australian press is freer (scum that they are) than the US press. There's a difference between idealism and how the place is actually run. Hell, the US even introduced the anglosphere to the concept of "Free Speech Zones".

Hell, even movie ratings are a form of censorship, and the US has those. Those movie ratings cause movies to be modified in order to meet them. The US even introduced the world to "Parental advisory: explicit lyrics" which was a soft form of censorship; some stores would not carry such marked CDs, and some shopping centres would not allow stores within to carry them.

Some US states prevent atheists from holding political office - that's an explicit penalty for exercising freedom of speech.

When I was in San Francisco, it was illegal for me to take a photo of a school. Standing in a public place, it was illegal for me to take a normal point'n'click photo facing one direction but not another. Similarly, both countries ban public nudity except in some specific areas.

Then, of course, there's all the provisions for the support of US IP law and legislating against filesharing that Australia has had to engage in duty to treaty obligations with the US.

Ultimately, when you say "Australia still bans things", you make it sound like a commonplace experience. It really isn't - and banned items are few and far between. Your wikipedia link has little that Australia has banned in the past couple of decades, and includes paragraphs like: Explicit sex scenes have also become more common. Channel Nine's crime drama Underbelly has frequent coarse language and sex (including explicit anal rape) with one episode featuring a "drug-fuelled orgy with prostitutes accompanied by the Spiderbait song "Fucken Awesome"". I am actually interested to hear if you can name more than a handful of banned items from the past couple of decades. By the way, does exporting cryptography count?

The US does have better protections for individual freedom of speech, but the gulf between the two nations really isn't all that large, nor is it all in the US's favour.

-- Which are similar to the insane laws against denying the Holocaust or even using certain images in parts of Europe:

One thing that we here in the Anglosphere need to remember is that in WW2, we were unequivocably on the side of moral good. We were fighting the clearest moral evil humanity has known. All of the Anglosphere, undivided. For the European continent, the experience was much more complex and painful, and even those countries that fought against the Axis had plenty of collaborators. Idealism is nice... until it's tested, then pragmatism needs to have a voice.

In any case, you're talking about a very specific incident in history, which in Europe has a very real knock-on effect of lending support to neo-nazism. You can go hog-wild about denying the efficacy of Bismarck's reforms. Question Kaiser Wilhelm all you want. But the pragmatism of legislating against holocaust denial or sporting the swastika is basically the same as anti-defamation legislation: it's saying 'don't diminish this'.

Think about it this way: those laws are very specific in terms of what they ban. So you can't show the swastika in Germany. It doesn't mean that they're going to 'slippery-slope' their way to banning other images. There seems to be a belief in America that Germans want to obscure the past - they don't. From a friend in Germany, they're acutely ashamed of that past, and these laws help to avoid obscuring that past and lessening the impact of the resulting lessons. The laws you speak of here aren't things that hit people in their everyday lives, they're specific, targeted laws. The laws would not be around in an ideal world, but in a practical world, there is a tangible reason for them. As laws go, they're not 'insane'.

I'm not sure how the side-effects you see of these laws is any better or worse than the routine emotional pain that folks like the Westboro Baptist Church deal out under freedom of speech laws. Not showing a swastika in a manner other than historical education, compared against having a lunatic scream at me while I'm burying a loved one? Which one actually has the more social or psychological harm there?

-- What's worse, they do nothing to solve any of the real problems modern Europe has with anti-Roma and anti-Muslim racism.

US free speech also does nothing to solve any of the real problems modern America has with anti-Mexican and anti-Muslim racism. The holocaust denial laws are not there to solve racism. They're there to stem violent nationalism, the European forms of which don't exist in the US.

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>> WiFi is slow though, I just want a lan box. hahahaha :D OK, dear anon4, do you have idea what the fastest connection to the stock market today is, no? Hint, it's "wireless". High Frequency Trading set an arms race to have the best and fastest connection to the trade-market. Every nanosecond counts. TL;DR? Wireless is faster than Cable. Yup.

Nope. If you're not in the same datacenter you're too slow; all the HFT systems are in racks next to the exchange rack communicating over 10G Ethernet. Source: actually working on an HFT project.

@pjc50 Thank you for your input, really appreciated. What you say is that proximity gives you more benefit than having antennas transmitting data 'wireless', right? I agree with that and I don't, firstly because "Quantum Teleportation (QT)" is available soon enough for a broader audience than just Physicists [1] and such "directed antennas" positioned in the same proximity to the datacenter as the 10G links can result in equal or higher bandwidth. Otherwise it's an unfair comparison. Also QT is making rounds in the defense and aerospace industry now much more than ever, because they could use it to send data to satellites much faster than with earlier methods.

Please correct me, if I'm wrong, but I'd be grateful, if you had a source for your argument. :)

TL;DR: » If you're not in the same datacenter you're too slow; That applies to wireless and for cable.

By the way, what's your job title, if I may ask?

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[1] http://qcmc2012.org/

Re: The $200 Billion Rip-Off: Our broadband future was stolen (2007)

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I'm just in the process of upgrading our office in the heart of Melbourne from ADSL2 to a 10/10Mb synchronous DSL. That costs us just shy of $600 per month. There is enough fat in that pricing that the vendor dropped around 10% off the list price with us just asking, no real haggling. Our office in the heart of SF has 100/100Mb (admittedly, 'selected buildings only') for $50/month. And this is just after us receiving…

You can look at other suppliers with fibre. it will probably be quite shit but tpg offer that sort of service for 300$ per month (though they have a 5k installation charge )

I did look at exetel and one other one I can't remember, and they had similar pricing (all with ethernet-over-copper). We're going with Internode because their support is a known good.

My experience with TPG-by-friend is that they're wonderful until you need support. My personal experienc with Optus is that they obscure their help services, they have no tools for techies in small-medium businesses, they obscure their billing, they outsource support to terrible staff (last guy I had refused to even say anything), they have intentionally misleading marketing... and ugly corporate colours :)

I'm also not sure that fibre comes to the building (we're in an old building in the CBD) and assumed a high connection charge if it didn't... and we're only a dozen or so in the office. It's just that we have a couple of video editors, and when they upload, everyone moans...

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I'd strike Portland and Baltimore off of that list and replace them maybe with Seattle and D.C.? The greater Portland area ain't bad, but downtown Portland kind of blows. The food scene is okay, but it's hard to get just normal good greasy spoon food without having to find out more than you want to know about the meal. Seattle is nicer is almost every way and has more to do and a far better tech scene. Baltimore is a…

>The Middle East is well...it is what it is. A couple nice cities in a very difficult socio-economic environment with one industry. Depending on how you count it (European or Central Asia), lots of Turkey is actually pretty nice. Oy, what about Israel ;-)?

Ha! I'd probably add it to the few nice cities, and strike it from the singular industry list. But the rest still applies I suppose...particularly the difficult socio-economic environment.

In some ways I'd say Israel is like a very compressed and magnified U.S., huge military industrial complex, lots of immigrants, racial and ethnic segregation issues, big hi-tech industry, intense religious conservative red neck types...it's just all in an area the size of West Virginia.

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It took fierce competition to even get broadband companies to advertise what they are offering. I had to deal with a very small local monopoly in Western Maryland that just advertised "faster than dial up," had typical pings of over 200. It was thick on the local board, had a deal with local government as the sole authorized supplier in the county. Now I'm in a different part of the country, can get FiOS, but while V…

lol at calling all the providers. the free market fails if left alone, under shady regulations it is almost a joke. i found a aDSL number for ATT that was not advertised (and you reached a person on the first minute!) that was the result of some obscure regulation that they had to provide dsl without charging for a phone line if so i wanted. it was a very good service. as i was next door to their trunk. i moved, less…

+1 to the other comments here -- it's the enforced monopolies through local government/provider agreements that has failed in this case, as with other systems often considered failures of the free market.

There is nothing about what you described that was ever free market. Were Verizon not have been granted what I'm sure was exclusive rights for laying cable in your town, there'd be many providers vying for your business.

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Regarding the overpriced-ness of Australia, for a long time our dollar was worth around 2/3rds of the US dollar (at one point in the past 20 years it was down to 50c), and pricing made more sense in comparison, with imported things being generally more expensive due to remoteness. Then we had a mining boom and our dollar increased in value to a peak of around US$1.12. Of course, your local prices don't fluctuate to m…

re: overpricedness I think it has something to do with the better labor laws (for low-end workers) which push up prices on commodity items. I don't remember any country outside of maybe bits of Northern Europe and Switzerland where I paid more for local food. I've even been on some pretty remote islands and not paid that much, exchange rate adjusted or not. I remember the first time I paid $22 for breakfast and $5 fo…

$22 for a breakfast puts you in a fairly well-to-do area. As a comparison, I work in the Melbourne CBD and buy lunch every day from a variety of places for around $10-12, though none of these are trendy cafes. One thing to remember when comparing bought food between the countries is that the US price is usually stated as being before tax and tip, which generally adds 25%. In my experience, bought meals were roughly the same price in the two places (I don't eat fancy though) with the US being a touch cheaper, however the US meals were more substantial. Food you make yourself, bought from a supermarket, was considerably cheaper in the US. Real estate here is ridiculously expensive though; the most expensive in the world compared to average annual salary. It's something like tripled in value over the past 15 years, and that bubble shows no sign of bursting soon.

My steak experience in the US was in Fort Stockton in Texas. A $14 steak came out, so lonely and small that it literally slid right across the plate when it was placed before me. Fort Stockton isn't doing Texas any favours for their steak reputation :)

In 2007, Australia was at the start of it's mining boom's plateau - this was when the dollar started peaking with parity with the $US, and yes, things would have been overpriced for a tourist. Curiously, during the GFC, the assumption was that Australia's economy would crumble and our dollar dropped to US60c. It made no sense, because our economy did alright while the US economy crumbled significantly. It's just a reminder that currency values are set by the gut feelings of a bunch of suits in the city, not by concrete measures.

It's a great place to live, but I have trouble recommending it as a place to visit - pretty much all the nations which produce sizeable quantities of tourists have access to the things Australia provides to tourists, but closer and cheaper. I'm not the guy the tourism board wants to hire...

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