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The $200 Billion Rip-Off: Our broadband future was stolen (2007)

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Re: The $200 Billion Rip-Off: Our broadband future was stolen (2007)

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My broadband service is terrible. Far to expensive, it is slow and drops packets. And the competitive environment sucks. Comcast and Regulators: go to hell. I'll vote for any politician who is interested in improving the situation.

> My broadband service is terrible

My business gets 10mbps down, 2mbps up, for $90/month in Los Angeles. It also goes down frequently (5-6 times a year). I think the next best upload rate (5mbps) was $400/month or so with some bullshit "enterprise" plan.

It takes way too long to do simple file transfers from my office to a remote machine. I fucking hate it and our culture of monopolies can go to hell.

Re: The $200 Billion Rip-Off: Our broadband future was stolen (2007)

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I'm Australian, am I to understand that our internet quality and distribution is only just approaching what the American's had in 2007? WTF!? I wish poor internet connection was something I could really get upset about, but I guess the rest of my life is a lot better than most around the world.

As an Australian that lived in America for a long time, trust me when I say life in Australia with crappy internet is significantly better than life in America with fast internet. You don't want to live there, trust me.

I understand what you mean. America was not always like this. People used to be friendlier, and you had more job choices. I love this country, but times have changed. I'm not being unpatriotic, but we lost our bragging rights.

Re: The $200 Billion Rip-Off: Our broadband future was stolen (2007)

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There are some neat cities with character. For quality-of-life (relatively speaking) you have Austin and Portland. If you think you can make it rich, there's San Francisco and New York. For historic charm, you have Boston, Philadelphia and Baltimore. The upper midwest has a relatively high quality of life, too. Life in the politically sane parts ("blue states") of the US, if you have a job in tech, isn't so bad. You…

I'd strike Portland and Baltimore off of that list and replace them maybe with Seattle and D.C.?

The greater Portland area ain't bad, but downtown Portland kind of blows. The food scene is okay, but it's hard to get just normal good greasy spoon food without having to find out more than you want to know about the meal. Seattle is nicer is almost every way and has more to do and a far better tech scene.

Baltimore is a hell hole and I wouldn't miss it if it sunk into the ocean tomorrow. I grew up not far from it and avoid it like the plague. It's one of the saddest U.S. cities outside of Detroit. I'd say the same about D.C., but it's improved tremendously in the last 20 years and is actually not a bad city these days. It's not as nice as modern NYC, but it's getting there.

Having done lots of global travel, including to Australia. I'd say the bits of Australia that I've been to (NSW) were "fine". It feels very "American" in lots of ways, but different -- like an episode of Sliders. Public transportation was even worse than the lousy standards of the U.S., if that's believable, and everything from real estate to food was terribly overpriced. But it had a nice feel to the place, people were friendly enough and there's a better fitness culture than in the States if that's important -- it's not to me. The big spaces between the cities were full of the same kind of redneck you find in the big spaces between cities anywhere and only appeal to people who like farming and dust. As an American I could see moving to Australia for a couple years maybe.

Europe has nice bits and "meh" parts as well...even in Western Europe. Growing up in one of the most cultural diverse places in the world, the lack of cultural variety in lots of areas in continental Europe is kind of boring. Unless you count Kebabs and Chinese takeout as culture. London can service this if you need but it's about the only really strongly diverse multi-cultural city in Europe that's on the scale of the typical American city. The racial segregation in most of Europe makes Chicago look like a well integrated city. Europe offers good health insurance, and excellent local food (even if the variety isn't very good). But you also get high taxes, a difficult labor environment and in general an anti-risk anti-entrepreneurial environment.

The Middle East is well...it is what it is. A couple nice cities in a very difficult socio-economic environment with one industry. Depending on how you count it (European or Central Asia), lots of Turkey is actually pretty nice.

I count Russia as its own thing. Cities are pretty new like Asia, industry is highly focused like the Middle East, people can be very friendly once you get to know them, and then everybody's miserable anyways.

TBH These days I'd rather live in one of the newer Asian mega cities: Tokyo, Seoul, Beijing, Hong Kong, Singapore etc. Nicer places to live, better quality of life, more to do, and everything's newer so it's in better shape. Public transport is out of this world, and food is generally plentiful and cheap. People are fine as well in most places. Crime is also low and medical care is stupid cheap even if it's not universal. Most of Asia is also highly entrepreneurial with nearly everybody trying to start a business of some sort.

U.S. is big, varied, cities are generally metropolitan, lots of different industries to work in. The countryside drops down the socio-economic ladder very quickly. Pockets of extreme religiosity can be annoying but are easy to avoid. But it's medium-high entrepreneurial tendencies and high risk acceptance and well regulated banking system make doing business reasonably pain free. Health care costs are absurd, sometimes even with insurance. Food is of a high variety, even if much of it is second rate. Local American cuisine is generally contemptible, but pockets of traditional american greatness exist in the food world. Clothes and goods are cheap and plentiful and of unimaginable variety. In most of the country real estate prices vary considerably within short distances. Public transport outside of a few cities is almost third world.

Re: The $200 Billion Rip-Off: Our broadband future was stolen (2007)

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I understand what you're saying, but I don't know how you can say that with a straight face. I don't think living a life that "isn't so bad" is good enough for the caliber of people that visit HN. And the fact that your country has "sane" and presumably "insane" political areas is creepy :(

I'm an American. There are some ways in which I like living here. Would I come here if I were a Swede? Hell no, except for a $300k+ job in banking or the Valley, and only then knowing that I could get on a plane and leave if I got sick. (You can get 100-200k in the EU; at the 300k level, the jobs start getting rarer in the EU relative to the US, which is why Wall Street gets a surprising amount of French, German, and…

I don't get all the apologies in this thread. The US is a great country! Has its warts, but I've lived in Europe, and I've been to Australia, and I wouldn't live anywhere else.

It's the maverick, can-do entrepreneurial spirit that's more prevalent among Americans and the rich cultural diversity that comes with being a melting pot that I love about this country. Outside of a few bad spots in a few cities, it's one of the safest places in the world to live.

Yeah, our history is kinda fucked up, but whose isn't? Bad people do bad things. Name one country in the world that doesn't have fucked up moments in their history.

I just don't understand all the pessimism and self-hate that Americans seem to have lately.

Re: The $200 Billion Rip-Off: Our broadband future was stolen (2007)

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He might have experienced our healthcare. Even if he had insurance, our system is a clusterfuck that makes everyone worse upon contact. Or, he might be older than 30 and therefore not willing to deal with the puny two-week vacation allotment that is still socially acceptable from US employers. Or, he might have children who will have to be educated someday, and see that a system that combines astronomical tuition plu…

> He might have experienced our healthcare. Even if he had insurance, our system is a clusterfuck that makes everyone worse upon contact. I'm not disagreeing with you I just need help understanding. I get a job. My job offers health insurance coverage, which most do now. I pay a small fee ( > Or, he might be older than 30 and therefore not willing to deal with the puny two-week vacation allotment that is still social…

It is en vogue to consider U.S. health care sub-par. Americans are less healthy than other countries but it's not because we don't spend enough on care. It's because we depend too much on health insurance to make us healthy.

To me if health care is broken in the U.S., it is broken for two reasons: 1. medical coverage is tied to employment and 2. economic considerations are removed from the equation by insurance companies.

My two fixes to U.S. health care would be to allow (through de-regulation or regulation, whichever it requires) allow consumers to shop for healthcare based on their own desires for coverage (extreme catastrophic coverage, e.g. only cover procedures over $50K, all the way down to full coverage of toe nail clipping and nose wiping) without ties to their employer. This fix would remove the pre-existing condition problem. It is one solution the new healthcare exchanges attempt to provide.

To fix the second problem, I think health insurance companies and medical facilities should be required to show their prices for all treatments and procedures. If my health insurance will pay up to $5K for me to have my appendix removed and there is a doctor that I trust who will remove it for $250.00, I should be able to choose that doctor and my insurance premiums should reflect the choices that I make with my coverage.

If health care were handled like this, people could save thousands of dollars on their health coverage by making responsible decisions about what types of coverage to get and how much to spend on treatment. The money saved could be used to pay for things that are not required or to save for other lifestyle choices.

Re: The $200 Billion Rip-Off: Our broadband future was stolen (2007)

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I have tried posting this idea a couple of times before and have been roundly scolded, but oh well, here goes again. I think... that readers of this forum are ideally equipped to find a way around this problem. What I mean to say is that it is universally felt by everyone that they hate their broadband provider, phone company etc. Why can't we, the tech community come up with a competing technology? I know many have…

I wonder if an automatic peering arrangement could be built on top of a mesh infrastructure, to give incentive for running more robust nodes (not just for in-network traffic, but for uplink to the internet at large).

Re: The $200 Billion Rip-Off: Our broadband future was stolen (2007)

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They should be subject to regulation; they should not be granted monopolies. These are two entirely different concepts. The current system grants them monopolies, and fails to regulate them appropriately. This is exactly the wrong way round. But this is the problem with politicians: monopoly provides concentration of cash, and this can be tapped into far more efficiently from the perspective of political exploitation…

Its much easier to garner a donation from a rich individual with concentrated cash, than many individuals. Interestingly, this may change soon. It's probably inevitable that we're going to see politicians raising money a'la Kickstarter. A well-presented and charismatic politician should be able to raise a decent amount with crowdfunding, especially if they're a Redditor. Since most children are Redditors, and since s…

Barack Obama did just that in 2008.

Re: The $200 Billion Rip-Off: Our broadband future was stolen (2007)

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post #21

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I understand that a significant majority of the United States' healthcare system is lacklustre. I understand that a significant majority of the United States' only offer limited annual leave (compared to Australia's 4 weeks). I understand that a significant majority of the United States' suffers from an extremely high murder rate for a 1st world country. This is a sample of why I don't want to live in the US, even th…

The health care system is fine if you can afford it. The main problem with American health care is financial, and if you have good insurance (which should come with any good job) it's fine. Not great, but on par with the rest of the first world. Limited annual leave depends on the job. If you're in software engineering or similar, you're unlikely to have a problem. If you get offered a job that doesn't offer the annu…

Murder rate thing is probably because an Australian national named Christopher Lane, in the US playing Baseball at college, was randomly murdered in Oklahoma this year. He was out jogging when a couple of teenagers ran up and shot him in the back for no obvious reason.

Australian politicians immediately started telling people not to visit the US because it's so full of guns.

Re: The $200 Billion Rip-Off: Our broadband future was stolen (2007)

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I have tried posting this idea a couple of times before and have been roundly scolded, but oh well, here goes again. I think... that readers of this forum are ideally equipped to find a way around this problem. What I mean to say is that it is universally felt by everyone that they hate their broadband provider, phone company etc. Why can't we, the tech community come up with a competing technology? I know many have…

I guess the problem is that all of these (broadband provider, phone company) are regulated by the government. Once you have the government involved, forget about competition, the market won't fix. You have to fix politics.
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