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Re: NSA Coworker Remembers Edward Snowden: "A Genius Among Geniuses"

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Post by sitkack » Wed, Dec 18, 2013, 1:24 AM UTC

rayiner wrote: post #164

sitkack wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, "the people" formed the United States. This isn't disputed. The entire body of the Constitution deals with limiting and delineating federal power.

Right. But if you read the Constitution in light of the Federalist papers, it is clear that those limitations on federal power apply domestically. Otherwise, it is clear that the framers intended to create a fully sovereign entity on the international stage, with the sovereign right to do all the things sovereigns have the right to do, which is pretty much everything. Indeed, that was one of the purposes of the Const…

I don't understand what you mean by "all the things sovereigns have the right do do, which is pretty much everything." ?

Clearly there are laws, and the US government is bound to those laws. Are you saying that the US government can have people killed? Torture? And as long as the US legal system isn't there to intervene it is legal?

Re: NSA Coworker Remembers Edward Snowden: "A Genius Among Geniuses"

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Dec 19, 2013, 12:07 AM UTC

sliverstorm wrote: post #109

no_wave wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why should someone consent to being apprehended if they are protesting the same laws that they are breaking?

Because it's civil disobedience. If you fight back, resist arrest, evade the police, etc it is just disobedience. :) The point behind civil disobedience is to publicly demonstrate the unjustness of the law, not fight it head-on. Remember when those nonviolent University students a little while ago got pepper-sprayed? Much, much better press for them and their cause than "students start brawl with police". Some people…

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Re: NSA Coworker Remembers Edward Snowden: "A Genius Among Geniuses"

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Post by bonemachine » Thu, Dec 19, 2013, 2:11 AM UTC

tootie wrote: post #32

The fact that the NSA needed help to setup Sharepoint fills me with confidence that they have no idea what they're doing. I'm guessing the password to the call log metadata is on a post-it note somewhere.

Or that their other people with more specific skills were too busy doing other things. Like, you know, pretty much any other tech shop.

Re: NSA Coworker Remembers Edward Snowden: "A Genius Among Geniuses"

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Post by eruditely » Fri, Dec 20, 2013, 11:03 PM UTC

simoncion wrote: post #102

tamersalama wrote: post #79

Something tells me that due to Snowden's leaks - nothing will ever get accomplished at the NSA. Not anymore. Imagine of all the additional security and authorization measures that they will add. Imagine how this would be a hurdle in both day-to-day and new projects.

You have an overactive imagination. ;)

Maybe not overactive enough to warrant such tasteless tongue in cheek though.