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What It's Like To Be Ridiculed For Open Sourcing A Project

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Re: What It's Like To Be Ridiculed For Open Sourcing A Project

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Post by benatkin »

kyro wrote: post #121
jlongster wrote: post #36

What the fuck. (And I rarely say that word.) We've got to grow up. This is 9th grade all over again. You know, those weird people that do things that you don't understand? They're the ones that grow up and make big impacts on the world. Why can't we get over our negativity? We can't stop ourselves from thinking horrible things, or even saying them out loud to people around us, but surely we can restrain ourselves fro…

At this point, I blame it on the assumption that Aspergers must run rampant and is severely underdiagnosed in the dev community.

I think it's autism that must run rampant and that it's underdiagnosed partly because people have called it Asperger's which doesn't seem as serious. With the new version of the DSM this won't happen as often.

Re: What It's Like To Be Ridiculed For Open Sourcing A Project

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Post by grannyg00se »

diego wrote: post #126
shardling wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Linus doesn't say things like that. If you don't understand the difference of context, well, look again!

He does. This was pretty nasty. http://shutupmauro.com/

Sounds like a general reprimanding a subordinate who has put people's lives in danger repeatedly and needs a straightening out. He clearly explained what the problem is, and expressed frustration that this had been explained before. Quite different from what is going on with this post.

Re: What It's Like To Be Ridiculed For Open Sourcing A Project

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Post by cookiecaper »

quasque wrote: post #82
jlongster wrote: post #36

What the fuck. (And I rarely say that word.) We've got to grow up. This is 9th grade all over again. You know, those weird people that do things that you don't understand? They're the ones that grow up and make big impacts on the world. Why can't we get over our negativity? We can't stop ourselves from thinking horrible things, or even saying them out loud to people around us, but surely we can restrain ourselves fro…

I wouldn't be at all surprised if there was a strong undercurrent of misogyny involved here, motivating their incivility and rudeness.

I'm quite skeptical of this. It's not like her gender is immediately obvious from the GitHub repo, and it seems obvious that if these guys recognized the screen name they wouldn't have been foolish enough to make these comments about an engineer at Mozilla.

Re: What It's Like To Be Ridiculed For Open Sourcing A Project

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Post by MartinCron »

sinak wrote: post #131
jlongster wrote: post #36

What the fuck. (And I rarely say that word.) We've got to grow up. This is 9th grade all over again. You know, those weird people that do things that you don't understand? They're the ones that grow up and make big impacts on the world. Why can't we get over our negativity? We can't stop ourselves from thinking horrible things, or even saying them out loud to people around us, but surely we can restrain ourselves fro…

Corey Haines wrote a thoughtful apology here: http://programmingtour.blogspot.com/2013/01/im-sorry.html Only one of the three to do so thus far.

Classy. None of the "I am sorry if you were offended bullshit" just a sincere "I messed up". Take note, just about everyone else.

Re: What It's Like To Be Ridiculed For Open Sourcing A Project

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Post by res0nat0r »

byroot wrote: post #159
anthonyb wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, Linus is often gratuitously rude.

Got a link ? Of Linus being gratuitously rude with a perfect stranger ?

Linus telling someone to shut the fuck up last month: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4962912

Re: What It's Like To Be Ridiculed For Open Sourcing A Project

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Post by nikatwork »

jmillikin wrote: post #67
rachelbythebay wrote: post #39

I get a fair amount of ridicule any time anything I write makes it into sites like reddit, and a small amount (depending on topic) when it makes it onto HN. When one of my posts hit the front page yesterday, I decided to re-read "How to Disagree": http://www.paulgraham.com/disagree.html Having done that, I can now just privately laugh at anyone who fails to come up with an adequate refutation of my central point. Peo…

> Regarding the actual program, I don't write shell > utilities in JavaScript so I can't say whether it's a > good or a bad implementation. It's just not my space. According to some other posts here, the quoted mockers are Ruby programmers. I believe the Twitter posts are about the concept of writing sed in Node-Javascript, not necessarily the implementation. As I understand it there's something of a rivalry between…

So there is some truth to the stereotype of the angry asshole Rubyist?

I thought the community had moved on since those days. I've been tossing up whether to learn Ruby or Clojure next, and this kind of crap is a real turn-off for Ruby.

Re: What It's Like To Be Ridiculed For Open Sourcing A Project

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Post by grannyg00se »

jmillikin wrote: post #67
rachelbythebay wrote: post #39

I get a fair amount of ridicule any time anything I write makes it into sites like reddit, and a small amount (depending on topic) when it makes it onto HN. When one of my posts hit the front page yesterday, I decided to re-read "How to Disagree": http://www.paulgraham.com/disagree.html Having done that, I can now just privately laugh at anyone who fails to come up with an adequate refutation of my central point. Peo…

> Regarding the actual program, I don't write shell > utilities in JavaScript so I can't say whether it's a > good or a bad implementation. It's just not my space. According to some other posts here, the quoted mockers are Ruby programmers. I believe the Twitter posts are about the concept of writing sed in Node-Javascript, not necessarily the implementation. As I understand it there's something of a rivalry between…

Oh is that what it is? The tweets weren't specific enough. Basically a point and laugh response but I didn't get it. I looked at the code briefly and it certainly seemed odd that node/javascript was being used as a command line tool to do something that can already be done with other tools, but this person created this to make their life easier.

Created. Had a problem and wrote working code to solve their problem. Then shared it. Not really something to point at in mockery.

Re: What It's Like To Be Ridiculed For Open Sourcing A Project

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Post by kenneth_reitz »

mhartl wrote: post #99
bmmayer1 wrote: post #70

For years I have been terrified about putting my code on Github for fear of rage and retribution from the programmer community. This is a real problem for us amateur coders who enjoy hacking but don't necessarily have the chops to go head-to-head with the serious guys.

In a way, it gets worse as you get better. Once people start thinking you're awesome, you start worrying that, if you make your code public, they'll realize how much you suck.

This is so true.

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Post by overgard »

jlongster wrote: post #36

What the fuck. (And I rarely say that word.) We've got to grow up. This is 9th grade all over again. You know, those weird people that do things that you don't understand? They're the ones that grow up and make big impacts on the world. Why can't we get over our negativity? We can't stop ourselves from thinking horrible things, or even saying them out loud to people around us, but surely we can restrain ourselves fro…

A good test of character is how one treats those that they perceive to be lower status than them.

I'd say these guys fail that test.

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