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GrapheneOS says Pixel 11 has MTE support after all

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Re: GrapheneOS says Pixel 11 has MTE support after all

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Tbf with all the information that has come to light since then Rossmann and FUTO were also not behaving correctly and it was fair from him to deny coming onto their show (where they have also invited fascists before)

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Re: GrapheneOS says Pixel 11 has MTE support after all

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> Nobody is interested in reinstalling OS-es on their phones because the amount of effort to create an Android ISO that's as usable as what's preinstalled is truly gigantic. You've restated my thesis. > Yes, I am on the younger side I could tell.

It's pretty clear that you have an extremely limited exposure to the custom Android development space, since you never rebutted any of the points I brought up. Custom android was never easy and never will be. And it's fundamentally incompatible with the concept of having a truly secure env on your device (same as in the PC space, ironically enough).

Son, I've been building and installing custom roms since the HTC Dream, was involved in OpenMoko, and have owned nearly every open or Linux-running phone of the last 30 years back to the Sharp Zaurus and iPaqs.

Your custom rom experience sits wholly within a larger category of computer systems experience about which I've been speaking.

The sort of fragmentation you describe is a symptom, not a foregone conclusion.

Re: GrapheneOS says Pixel 11 has MTE support after all

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Actually functionality, stability of apps and features people use.

What functionality and features are lost in the base Pixel OS (not apps) as a direct result of GrapheneOS's changes to AOSP?

There's quite a list you can get even from GrapheneOS's posts - among other things, there's a rather large set of apps that will outright crash when MTE is enabled.

Re: GrapheneOS says Pixel 11 has MTE support after all

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What functionality and features are lost in the base Pixel OS (not apps) as a direct result of GrapheneOS's changes to AOSP?

Very little if anything at all. Depends a bit how you draw the line between an app and the base OS. Contactless payments dont work with Google Pay - but that is due to Google using attestatiom to check if the OS is GMS lincesed (GrapheneOS is not). There are alternative contactless payment options that work fine.

Moving the goalposts to "it's not their fault that it doesn't work" doesn't really change it doesn't work.

Re: GrapheneOS says Pixel 11 has MTE support after all

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post #113

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What functionality and features are lost in the base Pixel OS (not apps) as a direct result of GrapheneOS's changes to AOSP?

There's quite a list you can get even from GrapheneOS's posts - among other things, there's a rather large set of apps that will outright crash when MTE is enabled.

Could you list a couple of the biggest functionality losses from AOSP due to GrapheneOS changes? I might be misunderstanding what you mean.
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