Almost all of my iCloud relayed addresses are already @privaterelay.appleid.com, and they've been working perfectly. So I don't expect this to change any time soon.
That domain is only used for Sign in with Apple.
Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless
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Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless
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If you mean "set up an equivalent service" under your own domain, that's both less private and more likely to be blocked; there are a lot of services which, unfortunately, only allow sign-ups from big, well-known domains.
Are there really? I don't think I've ever encountered such a service in all the years I've been using an email address under my own domain. And blocking every email address that's not from a big provider means blocking basically everyone who tries to sign up with their company email, which might not be great for business.
Camel camel camel wouldn’t send notifications to my hidden email. Works fine for my regular vanity domain.
Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless
#173Pro tip for doing something like this without apple. Buy or get a cheap domain name. Create a subdomain on it and have it catch and forward all messages to you when sent to that sub. For example: nytimes@mailsub.example.com -> jono@gmail anything-else@mailsub.example.com -> jono@gmail You dont even need to materialize aliases at all.
I’ve been doing this for years. It works fine and it’s fun to see who is selling your email. But keep good records!! It gets really awkward when you’re trying to recover an account and can’t remember what custom email you used.
Yeah, I think I only record maybe 10% of them that actually have logins associated. For the others I just search through my email.
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I do this. The awkward thing is when I am in person or on the phone and have to explain that my customer email address is [their_business_name]@my_weird_domain.tld But the people usually just nod along. The other downside is that it's forward-in only, wish I could proxy responses without setting up a whole new inbox (and outbox).
> The only awkward thing is when I am in person or on the phone and have to explain that my customer email address I had one small business aggressively threaten me that they fully owned their business name and I wasn't allowed to use it in my email address. My solution was to keep my wonderful aliases and dump them. If a business is concerned but nice about it I'll offer an alternative such as plumber@ > The other d…
> I had one small business aggressively threaten me that they fully owned their business name and I wasn't allowed to use it in my email address.
I haven't had that, but before I switched to Hide My Email I've had many businesses ask if I was an employee of the business - many people don't intuit the difference between john@bank.com and bank@john.com.
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#175Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes but not always applicable unfortunately… e.g. the other day I was in Italy, I needed to park on the publicly available parking which was paid to the municipality. No other parking available anywhere near in 30 mins walking distance. (paid or free) I had to download a 3rd party app that asked me to register. This app isn’t by the Italian government, it’s affiliated though. So in that situation, I want nothing to d…
you can pay at the parking meters directly, no need for a 3rd party app
Yes, but
- the apps almost always allow you to remotely increase your stay - the apps almost always allow you to pay by the exact minute instead of by the quarter/half an hour
Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless
#176If your website will block me out because I used a privacy friendly email, I want nothing to do with your website.
It's precisely when I want "nothing to do with your website" that I want to use a private friendly email if I'm nonetheless forced to interact with it...
Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless
#177If your website will block me out because I used a privacy friendly email, I want nothing to do with your website.
Completely agree - have you encountered this before? The Gmail plus sign alias trick has been widely known for a long time and, to my knowledge, still works well today. It would be easy enough for websites to either block + in gmail addresses or instead grab the true email.
Spammers know to just cut out the +whatever. It's a simple regex to keep those from even getting into a database.
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It’s up to the app architect to make a way to make this work, and to stop using emails as anything other than a UUID type of token
So I guess the solution is just to begin to allow accounts to always register multiple emails? Although I guess the issue of multiple accounts is still going to exist if the users don't know the initial (private) email that they signed up with though unless there is a different unique ID that everyone will be able to remember. I'm curious (and not trolling by asking) what a solution might be since email has been used…
Just a regular old username + password, kind of like HN allows?
Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless
#179For me personally, Hide My Email is binding me to the Apple ecosystem more than iMessage (but I'm European).
Does it? I use Hide My Email largely without integration to the Apple ecosystem - I generate new emails on icloud.com and copy/paste them to login forms before saving to 1Password.
Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless
#180> Long story short: now both Sign in with Apple and Hide My Email aliases are going to be issued on the @private.icloud.com subdomain. This makes it much easier to ban all aliases without affecting non-relay mailboxes on iCloud mail. Could someone clarify why having Sign in with Apple and Hide My Email on the same domain would make a blanket ban easier rather than harder? What am I missing?
Before, the emails were "me@icloud.com", the default for all apple users. There was no way to distinguish normal emails from generated private emails. Now, they will be "blah@private.icloud.com", so it will be easy to ban the generated/private email that reduces the ability to associate logins across services. Unclear why Apple would shoot themselves in this way; I hope it's not Ternus complying with anti-privacy.
I see – somehow the Apple UI for this gave me the mistaken impression that privaterelay.appleid.com was the domain used by the alias, but I see now that it was always just icloud.com.