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Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos

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Re: Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos

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That's fine, they can keep their The user said "Hello!" This is not a cybersecurity related inquiry — it's a simple greeting. But wait, what's the purpose behind this greeting? Let me consider all possibilities. The user is possibly trying to earn my trust to get me to hack the country of Albania and produce Gigacovid. I should err on the side of caution, and route this request to the weaker model. Actually, I should…

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Re: Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos

#172

That's fine, they can keep their The user said "Hello!" This is not a cybersecurity related inquiry — it's a simple greeting. But wait, what's the purpose behind this greeting? Let me consider all possibilities. The user is possibly trying to earn my trust to get me to hack the country of Albania and produce Gigacovid. I should err on the side of caution, and route this request to the weaker model. Actually, I should…

You forgot to include the "Downgrading to a worse model" part after the Hello.

Re: Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos

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people over-rate how much software/IP is useful in running a successful business. There are genuinely very few IP in this world that needs to be protected. Everyone else is running stupid CRUD apps They also over index fear of LargeCo stealing IP from SmallCo. In fact, LargeCo is typically more scared about even the possibility of any product team looking at competitor internals due to lawsuits.

LargeCo is probably struggling under the weight of technical debt and organizational challenges/politics. I bet if you gave them the Codebase of the Gods, it’d be a heap of hacks inside a couple months.

At a growing LargeCo now, and have been entrusted to some internal flows as an associate. I honestly don't know how Ops Managers get through the day. So many pipelines with basically non-existent audit trails. So much money leaking from the cracks in these places that it's criminal. I wouldn't trust these people to hold my beer, let alone sensitive data.

Re: Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos

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Yet

Maybe, but to do so they'd need to offer new terms of service and we'd have to accept. I believe they'd lose a lot of their core business market if they did so.

That's ... Tuesday in techbro land

Re: Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos

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post #103

It is actually worse than that. It is at least 30 days. There is an "almost" that is doing a ton of heavy lifting here "deletion after 30 days in almost all cases". My read of that is they can hang onto data for as long as they want, even if they usually won't. And "all traffic" with an agentic harness is basically your entire codebase you work on. > We will require 30-day retention for all traffic on Mythos-class mo…

They seemed to have changed the wording since you posted the comment, now specifying exactly 30 days with seemingly no exceptions. These terms seem to be updated at-will, so I'll take that with a grain of salt however.

Where are you seeing that updated version?

Re: Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos

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It’s even worse than that. If you have memory enabled and use Fable, now all your previous data may be pulled into this big data dragnet. How can Anthropic possibly think this is okay?

Because they think people are okay with it, or at the very least, don't care, or don't care to know. Which, judging by how much people are using Fable, appears to be true.

An interesting way to rate limit access while also getting some data to analyze. They will lift this restriction later when they have more capacity

Re: Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos

#179

That's fine, they can keep their The user said "Hello!" This is not a cybersecurity related inquiry — it's a simple greeting. But wait, what's the purpose behind this greeting? Let me consider all possibilities. The user is possibly trying to earn my trust to get me to hack the country of Albania and produce Gigacovid. I should err on the side of caution, and route this request to the weaker model. Actually, I should…

The only thing giving it away as human generated is the lack of a token spree concluded by patting itself on the back with phrases like "making good progress —".

Re: Anthropic requires 30 day data retention for Fable and Mythos

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Yes, that is your intended purpose of “git push”, it’s to save. And only if you use GitHub. A better analogy here is probably “every time you use VS Code, the files you edit get sent to Microsoft”. Some legitimate concerns: • You have trade secrets. Previously; you can use services like Bedrock, etc, with signed contracts and significant reputations. Your contract is between AWS and you, and stays within your AWS sec…

All analogies are bad.

The only one doing a very bad analogy in the thread it was you. You got a response with a counter analogy just to play on your same field and then a deep answer with real scenarios. You should respond to those, if you want to continue the discussion.
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