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The four-day workweek in Australia: insights from early adopters of 100:80:100

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Re: The four-day workweek in Australia: insights from early adopters of 100:80:100

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Post by Marsymars »

MattDamonSpace wrote: post #117
oompydoompy74 wrote: post #20

Speaking as an American, I don’t give a shit if it increases productivity or not. Productivity has gone up exponentially with technological advancement since the advent of the 5 day work week. We, as a species, should be minimizing work to 3 or 4 days a week with equal overall pay. Corporations should be fined heavily for contacting an employee after working hours. On call should require corporations to pay hefty ove…

Someone doesn’t understand why we have nice things. “Increased productivity”, the thing you don’t give a shit about, is the only reason you’re not living in the dirt and dying of a tooth infection before 35. If you wanted to live with a QoL of the 1940s you could do so today working 2 days a week. Of course you’d have no air conditioning, shitty food, no running water, etc etc. You don’t have to LIKE corps but you sh…

I'd pretty happily work e.g. a 4-day work week for the QoL of 20 years ago - but I can't actually do so, it's not a option with most employers.

Re: The four-day workweek in Australia: insights from early adopters of 100:80:100

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Post by genxy »

archagon wrote: post #149
declan_roberts wrote: post #132

I was contacted this week for a position that was openly 6 days a week. We need to end H1B in this country as soon as possible and keep the 996 schedule firmly out of the United States. They call you lazy for not wanting to compete against the entire world in your own country.

Quite a leap to attribute corporate greed to H1B. Think again: this is entirely homegrown.

You give away your bias when it is the other way around.

The H1B is a byproduct and a tool of corporate greed.

Re: The four-day workweek in Australia: insights from early adopters of 100:80:100

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Post by N_Lens »

HDBaseT wrote: post #150
shell0x wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you live in inner Sydney, the rent alone is $1350 pw and tax is ridiculous. I basically sold my stocks to have a down payment but then that got added on top of income. If i’d have stayed in HK, i’d have paid 0% for that. I just treat it as paying for Australian citizenship to make me feel better and it still comes out cheaper than buying a Saint Kitts and Nevis passport. Australian passport also opens up the E3 vi…

You don't "have" to live in Sydney though. This is something immigrants like yourself fail to understand. It's a privilege to come into this country, its a privilege to live in Sydney. If you don't like it, you can leave. I make less (even before tax) than you PAID in tax, yet you still want handouts.

He doesn't like and he does say he will leave, after getting the Australian passport first for opening doors.

Re: The four-day workweek in Australia: insights from early adopters of 100:80:100

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Post by mgh95 »

HDBaseT wrote: post #150
shell0x wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you live in inner Sydney, the rent alone is $1350 pw and tax is ridiculous. I basically sold my stocks to have a down payment but then that got added on top of income. If i’d have stayed in HK, i’d have paid 0% for that. I just treat it as paying for Australian citizenship to make me feel better and it still comes out cheaper than buying a Saint Kitts and Nevis passport. Australian passport also opens up the E3 vi…

You don't "have" to live in Sydney though. This is something immigrants like yourself fail to understand. It's a privilege to come into this country, its a privilege to live in Sydney. If you don't like it, you can leave. I make less (even before tax) than you PAID in tax, yet you still want handouts.

> It's a privilege to come into this country, its a privilege to live in Sydney. If you don't like it, you can leave.

I hate to put it like this, but that's exactly what the poster is doing.

Re: The four-day workweek in Australia: insights from early adopters of 100:80:100

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Post by HerbManic »

shell0x wrote: post #83
BLKNSLVR wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tax changes that have been overdue for twenty-odd years to address house prices and attempt to level the playing field between labour and capital. Pity they didn't also change the gas tax.

The tax is already bad here, even without it. I paid $89,000 taxes just for the last financial year because stock gains are added up on top of the income and my partner doesn’t work and there’s no family support allowance here. I can apply Australian citizenship next year but I will leave ASAP after becoming a citizen for Singapore, Dubai or Hong Kong where the tax is < 20%

I'm sorry but you pay more in tax than I make in income! This sounds like your lifestyle creep has chewed up your money stream. Despite my significantly lower income, I manage to own my house in Melbourne. With your income I could have it paid down in a few years at most.

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Post by tomhow »

oompydoompy74 wrote: post #20

Speaking as an American, I don’t give a shit if it increases productivity or not. Productivity has gone up exponentially with technological advancement since the advent of the 5 day work week. We, as a species, should be minimizing work to 3 or 4 days a week with equal overall pay. Corporations should be fined heavily for contacting an employee after working hours. On call should require corporations to pay hefty ove…

Grandiose, ideological declarations like this are antithetical to HN’s ethos of curiosity. Please read the guidelines and make an effort to observe them if you want to participate here.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: The four-day workweek in Australia: insights from early adopters of 100:80:100

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Post by HerbManic »

HDBaseT wrote: post #150
shell0x wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you live in inner Sydney, the rent alone is $1350 pw and tax is ridiculous. I basically sold my stocks to have a down payment but then that got added on top of income. If i’d have stayed in HK, i’d have paid 0% for that. I just treat it as paying for Australian citizenship to make me feel better and it still comes out cheaper than buying a Saint Kitts and Nevis passport. Australian passport also opens up the E3 vi…

You don't "have" to live in Sydney though. This is something immigrants like yourself fail to understand. It's a privilege to come into this country, its a privilege to live in Sydney. If you don't like it, you can leave. I make less (even before tax) than you PAID in tax, yet you still want handouts.

Alas for some people, their lifestyle will expand to fill their income. They could earn 10x as much, and it probably still wouldn't be enough.

Re: The four-day workweek in Australia: insights from early adopters of 100:80:100

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Post by danielmarkbruce »

ktallett wrote: post #30
danielmarkbruce wrote: post #14

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"study"... The replication crises in science has shown that most studies are total bs. So we probably don't want to go with them.

How does that differentiate from a boss or a company philosophy stating a 5 or 6 day week is better? With no reliable metric on better, other than ancedotal evidence. It's not as if it's repeatable experimentation.

It doesn't, but in the case where a boss or company say it, at least we know it's bs. Do you believe something because your company or boss says so?

Re: The four-day workweek in Australia: insights from early adopters of 100:80:100

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Post by HerbManic »

gsinclair wrote: post #161
shell0x wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The tax is already bad here, even without it. I paid $89,000 taxes just for the last financial year because stock gains are added up on top of the income and my partner doesn’t work and there’s no family support allowance here. I can apply Australian citizenship next year but I will leave ASAP after becoming a citizen for Singapore, Dubai or Hong Kong where the tax is < 20%

If you made income, and enough gain in stocks to pay that much in tax, you should be happy. I want to know why you are keen to become an Australian citizen if you’re not enthusiastic about contributing your share. Constructive discussion about appropriate levels of taxation is important, but let’s at least agree that the things we rely on (roads, hospitals, schools, defence, …) cost something.

I don't think they realize that they are in the top 1% of earners on the planet with numbers like that.

It is always funny to see how many think they are hard done even though by the numbers they are the winners by a wide margin.

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Post by paulryanrogers »

azan_ wrote: post #111
runtime_terror wrote: post #65

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I wonder what would happen to costs if we had a 90%+ tax rate on the ultra wealthy... maybe if all these record profits were instead funneled back into society everyone would be better off AND prices would drop... a system like this would be good for society it seems... we should come up with a good name for that system, tho...

I think its pretty naive to thing that it'd work this way. It's really bad idea. If someone has company that debuts on stock market, and stock price increases let's say 100x times, who is he funneling the funds from? I'd say it's not funneling but creation of wealth, economy is not zero-sum game.

US had tax brackets in the 90%s for decades. It was part of a golden era for workers, for that and a variety of other reasons like strong unions.

Of course the rich tried to work around it. But culturally they also understood that paying a lot of taxes was considered their duty to society, especially in times of crisis.

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