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The four-day workweek in Australia: insights from early adopters of 100:80:100

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Re: The four-day workweek in Australia: insights from early adopters of 100:80:100

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Post by HDBaseT »

ENGNR wrote: post #44
BLKNSLVR wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tax changes that have been overdue for twenty-odd years to address house prices and attempt to level the playing field between labour and capital. Pity they didn't also change the gas tax.

House tax changes... strong yes Share tax changes... ugh My hope was cashed up bogans would start betting on shares instead of housing/crypto. At least it could be funnelled into something productive

You shouldn't have to rely on shares investments to make a living or retire though.

Just because someone doesn't invest in shares, doesn't mean they are a bogan. I'm sick of this term being thrown around at people you look down upon...

Re: The four-day workweek in Australia: insights from early adopters of 100:80:100

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Post by tedk-42 »

shell0x wrote: post #130
sumedh wrote: post #96

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Why are you not leaving right now?

I could as a German but my partner has a weaker passport so I’m just waiting till she got her australian passport

so you take but you don't want to give?

perhaps try a different perspective of, "it's good i live in a place where we contribute for a common good"

Re: The four-day workweek in Australia: insights from early adopters of 100:80:100

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Post by eudamoniac »

FridgeSeal wrote: post #136
jmyeet wrote: post #102

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This has the same energy as "if we tax the billionaires, they'll leave". That statement and yours are wrong. Why? Because if it was profitable, they would've done it already. Pretty much any employer would use you as fertilizer if there was an uptick in the stock price. But let's say it's true. Great. Punish them with tariffs. They also have diminished political power because they're no longer a local employer. We ar…

Fully agreed. “Oh but businesses will leave” Yeah so what, if they do, we either didn’t want them, or they _actually won’t_ despite the squealing, or they will go, and if their segment of the market is useful, will get snapped up by new/local versions which do respect local constraints from the get-go. All of these are better outcomes than not doing anything because “what if”.

That only works with tariffs, which are widely considered evil apparently.

Re: The four-day workweek in Australia: insights from early adopters of 100:80:100

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Post by thegrim33 »

An AI-generated article which summaries a pre-print release which surveyed 15 people at 15 companies about their thoughts on whether the arrangement was working for them. Of those 15, a grand total of 6 (unidentified) people at 6 (unidentified) companies (all in the same country), said they "thought" productivity had increased. Not a single data point was taken about whether it actually increased. The questions that these 15 people were asked was not disclosed.

An informal survey, of unknown content, of 15 unidentified people, with 6 of those people being in the "boosts productivity" camp. Cool beans. I guess that settles the matter once and for all.

Re: The four-day workweek in Australia: insights from early adopters of 100:80:100

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Post by tedk-42 »

passive wrote: post #74
pinkmuffinere wrote: post #64

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Oh no, I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not, lol

It's a little bit snark, but I do think it would be an interesting experiment. Wish I had lots of money to try it out.

a lot of AI is just wasteful like this.

there are a lot of parallels with crypto 'mining' a transaction and AI slopping a functional output.

Re: The four-day workweek in Australia: insights from early adopters of 100:80:100

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Post by antisthenes »

bigiain wrote: post #81
anonymars wrote: post #71

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How did the 40-hour workweek come about? (Certainly not "naturally")

Unions.

More specifically than Unions, it was the threat of violence (in extreme cases) and work stoppage by workers against the ownership class.

E.g. the Russian Revolution (one of the main workers' requests in the events leading up to the Revolution was the 40 hour work week and fair treatment).

The unions were just a symptom to mediate the threat of violence in exchange for a larger share of the added value generated by the worker.

Re: The four-day workweek in Australia: insights from early adopters of 100:80:100

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Post by paulryanrogers »

idle_zealot wrote: post #31
christophilus wrote: post #23

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That would be ok in a non-globalized world. In our world, any country that implements those laws will see a lot more offshoring.

Hey, if fuel gets expensive enough this will be much less of a problem! Let's all thank Trump and Iran for their great work on bringing the four day work week closer to fruition. This isn't how I would've imagined bringing industry back to the States, but it's a promise made, promise kept.

Has the promise been kept? Is industry on-shoring in any significant sense? Or just making photo ops for Trump and fam, then slow walking the implementation until it's quietly canceled or scaled back to a token effort?

Re: The four-day workweek in Australia: insights from early adopters of 100:80:100

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Post by archagon »

declan_roberts wrote: post #132

I was contacted this week for a position that was openly 6 days a week. We need to end H1B in this country as soon as possible and keep the 996 schedule firmly out of the United States. They call you lazy for not wanting to compete against the entire world in your own country.

Quite a leap to attribute corporate greed to H1B.

Think again: this is entirely homegrown.

Re: The four-day workweek in Australia: insights from early adopters of 100:80:100

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Post by HDBaseT »

shell0x wrote: post #134
BLKNSLVR wrote: post #123

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You're breaking my heart. To pay $89,000 in taxes you'd have to be earning in the range of $350k. Do you think you're hard done by? I'd be rather annoyed if you were eligible for family support allowance in that earning range? (partially because I'd be missing out on a decent chunk of government support myself) What am I missing about your situation that makes it remotely sympathetic?

If you live in inner Sydney, the rent alone is $1350 pw and tax is ridiculous. I basically sold my stocks to have a down payment but then that got added on top of income. If i’d have stayed in HK, i’d have paid 0% for that. I just treat it as paying for Australian citizenship to make me feel better and it still comes out cheaper than buying a Saint Kitts and Nevis passport. Australian passport also opens up the E3 vi…

You don't "have" to live in Sydney though. This is something immigrants like yourself fail to understand.

It's a privilege to come into this country, its a privilege to live in Sydney. If you don't like it, you can leave.

I make less (even before tax) than you PAID in tax, yet you still want handouts.

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