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Flipper One – we need your help

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Re: Flipper One – we need your help

#171
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Most articles I click on in the HN homepage turn out to be written by AI, judging from the phrasing. I'm weirded out by the fact that people don't seem to find it important to write their own thoughts down. The writing in TFA is clearly supervised by a human, but still, the wording is not human at all.

Tbh, I'm getting more frustrated with the ever-coming flood of "Bah I didn't read because it was obvious AI blah blah" which seemingly every single submission HAS to come with nowadays on HN, god forbid someone is more interested in the content than the flow of the words. If you have specific complaints about the text and content, bring those up instead, and we could discuss those or even correct the linked page itse…

I'm mostly the opposite. I'm glad to see people calling this out. Do we really want it to become normal to offload communication to another entity?

"Claude, I need to send my wife an apology for shagging the secretary. Please make it tender and remorseful."

A person's take on anything isn't their take any more if someone else articulates it, and there's a real risk we slip back to a hired scribe culture, with the multitude volunteering to return to illiteracy because they can't be arsed to type or even speak - beyond brief outlines.

But the case is totally different for organizations and companies. They've always used copy editors to write their blurb, usually in a pasteurized flat business style that was always far removed from individuality and near-identical across organizations. I can't see why using AI in these cases makes any difference.

Re: Flipper One – we need your help

#172
post #21

Most articles I click on in the HN homepage turn out to be written by AI, judging from the phrasing. I'm weirded out by the fact that people don't seem to find it important to write their own thoughts down. The writing in TFA is clearly supervised by a human, but still, the wording is not human at all.

I'm the author of this text. It was originaly writen in a mix of russian and english WITHOUT the AI and then polished and translated by editors. Here is the original draft https://blog.flipper.net/p/b5b7e9f8-a99f-4393-bf72-23fe5a42e...

People hunting for AI text is reaching transvestigation levels

Re: Flipper One – we need your help

#173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is it okay for you to post a comment complaining about people posting comments complaining about AI posts? Why don't you just move on with your life instead of posting a complaint on HN about others' complaints?

because 70 of 140 comments under this submission are owned by this thread about AI. And this is usually not what you want when you click on an interesting submission

> because 70 of 140 comments under this submission are owned by this thread about AI.

This is an effect, rather than a cause. The root cause is often (but obviously not always) that the submission was written with AI to begin with. In instances like this, it is useful to focus on the root cause, not a proximal effect.

> And this is usually not what you want when you click on an interesting submission

More importantly: overly-verbose LLM output is usually not what you want when you click on what you thought would be an interesting submission.

In general, reading comments written by actual humans about how a submission is AI, is preferable to reading a long submission written by AI. If I wanted to talk to AI, I can do that without HN. HN is where I come to discuss things with people.

Re: Flipper One – we need your help

#175
post #21

Most articles I click on in the HN homepage turn out to be written by AI, judging from the phrasing. I'm weirded out by the fact that people don't seem to find it important to write their own thoughts down. The writing in TFA is clearly supervised by a human, but still, the wording is not human at all.

Tbh, I'm getting more frustrated with the ever-coming flood of "Bah I didn't read because it was obvious AI blah blah" which seemingly every single submission HAS to come with nowadays on HN, god forbid someone is more interested in the content than the flow of the words. If you have specific complaints about the text and content, bring those up instead, and we could discuss those or even correct the linked page itse…

They are tiresome but also understandable. I do not want to read AI generated content, even when its correct, because at that point what's the value? I'm reading results of somebody else's prompt, might as well use my own.

I'm surprised any author today isn't pre- or appending their articles with simple statement on AI usage. Transparency goes a long way.

Re: Flipper One – we need your help

#176

for reference, Flipper Zero was $199. does anyone know how much they're thinking for Flipper One?

https://gizmodo.com/the-company-behind-the-flipper-zero-hack... >> Flipper’s goal is to sell the device for around $350.

With that money going to Russia.

Just sayin'.

EDIT: The above is a perfectly factual statement about the Flipper. The downvotes are presumably coming from the pro-Russia bots and shills.

Re: Flipper One – we need your help

#177

Sounds like the second system effect. (The Mythical Man Month) First one is simple and focused, the second one tries to be & do everything. And frequently never ships.

They're very explicit that Flipper 1 isn't a "v2", but a device that targets different use cases.

Re: Flipper One – we need your help

#178

No binary blobs. Not even cellular and wifi?

Our wifi chipset MT7921AUN has an open driver in the mainline. Of course wifi firmware is binary. But you can use the whole system without a wifi. Main idea is to make the platform open, so you don't need blobs to boot and use the system.

Re: Flipper One – we need your help

#179
post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tbh, I'm getting more frustrated with the ever-coming flood of "Bah I didn't read because it was obvious AI blah blah" which seemingly every single submission HAS to come with nowadays on HN, god forbid someone is more interested in the content than the flow of the words. If you have specific complaints about the text and content, bring those up instead, and we could discuss those or even correct the linked page itse…

I was hesitant to post my comment. It's the first time I've complained about this on HN I think. And it's not only about the flow of the words at all, it's more about reading something that no one wrote. Especially if it's about a project that seems interesting, having AI written text tells me it's maybe not the passion project I otherwise would think it was.

Just commenting as a friendly FYI - the author commented above and noted that there was no AI used, just translation tools. Honestly, I'm not sure why the grandparent thought it was AI; it didn't read that way to me at all.

Re: Flipper One – we need your help

#180
post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm the author of this text. It was originaly writen in a mix of russian and english WITHOUT the AI and then polished and translated by editors. Here is the original draft https://blog.flipper.net/p/b5b7e9f8-a99f-4393-bf72-23fe5a42e...

People hunting for AI text is reaching transvestigation levels

On one hand, you’re right. On the other, it’s normal that humans want to gauge the authenticity of the things they interact with. Some sort of uncanny valley thing.
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