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Intuit to lay off over 3k employees to refocus on AI

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Re: Intuit to lay off over 3k employees to refocus on AI

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Post by anonymousiam »

flomo wrote: post #134
swiftcoder wrote: post #131

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> Its 2026 and times are tough baby Tough even for firms that have regulatory capture in a ~$48 billion market?

You know it as well as I, no gotcha here buddy. It's getting tough for shitters with some old ass legacy PC who depend on online services. Hopefully they were smart enough to understand they were living on borrowed time. edit, also there are government subsided smartphones if you need one.

My PCs are modern. I (used to) run TurboTax in a VM. I've got three VMs with different older versions of Windows, that contain about 20 years of Tax data. It's more secure to keep my tax data in VMs that I don't use for anything else. I do have a Windows 11 partition on my PC, but I haven't booted it in over a year, and I have no need to.

I don't think I'll ever need to make a Windows 11 VM.

Re: Intuit to lay off over 3k employees to refocus on AI

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Post by sampullman »

s1artibartfast wrote: post #74
steezeburger wrote: post #60

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Why pay for tax software? What's wrong with the free tax submission website?

most are limited to a simple 1040

I used the IRS free fillable forms this year and it was much easier than I expected, including contractor, investment income, and foreign income declarations.

Re: Intuit to lay off over 3k employees to refocus on AI

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Post by grep_name »

Citizen_Lame wrote: post #161
shantnutiwari wrote: post #155

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>>There's a lazy habit from some folks to say something they either disagree with or don't understand was "written by AI" without backing up that statement. Thank you for saying this, I keep arguing the same. "This is llm" has become lazy for "I dont like this so I will pretend its llm"

That's because most of the LLM output is associated with low effort spam, and they are not wrong. You keep fighting for LLM rights, lol.

^ this comment was written by an llm.

See the problem?

Re: Intuit to lay off over 3k employees to refocus on AI

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Post by woobar »

nly wrote: post #138
arwhatever wrote: post #119

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I used Claude Code to prepare my personal income tax return this year, and so far the IRS hasn’t come after me. Had Claude generate yaml files for the input/source documents, then had it generate code to process the return into output yaml files. Manually typed the results into the IRS Free File Forms website, and was pleased to see that it did some input validation. Had it generate Code modules to match the IRS form…

Still blows my mind that Americans have to do this. In the UK almost nobody needs to "file their takes" and if you do you just do it online without the need for software.

Would you prefer to pay $100 for software, or a 50% marginal tax on a meager £100K?

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Post by dh2022 »

VariousPrograms wrote: post #26
mactavish88 wrote: post #3

The absolute last thing I want in the filing of my taxes is non-determinism.

I asked an LLM (Gemini) about a calculated field in my taxes that was wrong but I couldn’t figure out why and every time it tried to tell me something like “It’s a common glitch for tax software to calculate like this.” When I did figure out what was wrong and asked if that made sense, it told me I was absolutely right though. I think people are lucky the IRS fired all their employees this day and age so this work is…

Serious question: to figure out the answer why did you not go to the IRS website for that field? This is how I ultimately answer any tax questions I have.

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Post by amiga386 »

crowcroft wrote: post #12
kstrauser wrote: post #6

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Boy, do I have bad news for you. Edit: To be clear, as a sibling post said, the basic arithmetic is easy enough. It's the tax opinion stuff that is absolutely not deterministic. If your situation is even moderately complex, there's a vast number of ways to describe your deductions, each with different tax implications and multi-year requirements. I'm not talking about being Jeff Bezos, either. Is your spouse an indep…

I think it's a very common misconception among programmers that the law is a sort of natural language 'program' where you can consistently deduce that x input generate y output.

Not to detract from your point, but the French tax system is defined as code.

https://rmonat.fr/talk/impots_gallium19/

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Post by tptacek »

philipallstar wrote: post #165
jcranmer wrote: post #33

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Trying to treat law as code-in-English-form is going to lead you horribly astray, however. The behavior of C code is something that we can, in principle, reduce to semantics in a formal model we know how to describe the behavior of. Now, there's some issues getting there--the specification is more ambiguous than we'd like, and there's definitely certain behaviors that are very challenging to incorporate in a formal m…

> Law doesn't work like that This is partly because the law predates compilers and modern communication. Why should a crime get different sentences? Often because judges are humans and somehow that makes it okay to lock some people up for years longer than others.

No it isn't, at least not in common law systems like the US. It is part of the principle of how statutes are drafted that they will be interpreted by human judges and shaped by precedent. It's not a technological limitation.

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Post by mplanchard »

readthenotes1 wrote: post #8

I wonder how many windows 10 users discovered freetaxusa.com works as well as turbotax this year (since Intuit doesn't support Windows 10 any more)

Was scanning the comments to see if anyone had recommended freetaxusa. I think this was my third or fourth year on it. I’ve been nothing but pleased, personally.

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Post by HoldOnAMinute »

eeixlk wrote: post #103
gdulli wrote: post #41

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I made the switch to FreeTaxUSA from H&R Block online this year. It was very easy and I'm kicking myself for not doing it sooner. You can upload your previous year's PDF from your other software to import the data.

It's been good for so long I hope it doesn't get popular and go to shit. Free federal return and $15 state return if needed. If Intuit died tomorrow the world would be a better place.

Not for me! I would have to hire an accountant or CPA. Then I would have to spend a lot of time and energy meeting with them and taking their phone calls.

TurboTax occupies a middle ground and it saves me enormous amounts of time.

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