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Aspartame is not that bad? (2022)

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Re: Aspartame is not that bad? (2022)

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Post by kibwen »

malfist wrote: post #86
kibwen wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As the article mentions, this is a false dichotomy. If you're an ordinary person driven to be healthy, drink water. Water is great. If you're already drinking water, you should absolutely not replace it with whatever bottled crap that Coke or Pepsi is peddling, be it "smart water" or otherwise. But for people with sugar cravings bordering on addiction, which describes a depressingly enormous proportion of the populat…

> sugar cravings bordering on addiction, which describes a depressingly enormous proportion of the population It's almost like our bodies are designed to crave calories

Our bodies are designed to crave calories, but habitually ingesting too much sugar is more about hijacking dopamine release pathways than about fulfilling your body's basic need for satiation.

Re: Aspartame is not that bad? (2022)

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nicole_express wrote: post #49

Honestly I believe there's a puritan streak in the aspartame controversy; you don't deserve to experience sweet taste if you're trying to avoid sugar, you need to suffer for your diet, and it's unfair to have a zero-calorie soda that tastes good. I could be convinced otherwise by data, but when I'm seeing decades of attempts to prove it's dangerous and none actually pan out, I'm not going to feel bad about drinking a…

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Re: Aspartame is not that bad? (2022)

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Post by mmastrac »

ErroneousBosh wrote: post #155
throw4847285 wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you keep drinking them, you'll likely acquire a taste. I didn't used to like any artificial sugar flavors, but now I've grown accustomed to them.

It's not "I don't like the taste". It is "these taste like they're contaminated with antifreeze". They taste like they've been intentionally adulterated with the stuff they use to stop people drinking poisonous things.

That's exactly my experience. What's interesting is that the taste is also very similar to the taste/sensation I get when I have a viral infection.

Re: Aspartame is not that bad? (2022)

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Post by YeahThisIsMe »

ChrisRR wrote: post #59
cael450 wrote: post #36

> Half of the world’s aspartame is made by Ajinomoto of Tokyo—the same company that first brought us MSG back in 1909. There is nothing wrong with MSG either

There's not "nothing" wrong with MSG. But msg is fine in moderation, just like salt, fat and sugar are all fine in moderation too

What's wrong with it?

Re: Aspartame is not that bad? (2022)

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Post by Kirby64 »

BobaFloutist wrote: post #143
SAI_Peregrinus wrote: post #131

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Plain MSG absolutely does not taste bitter. I just tried some (again) to confirm, it's not salty & not bitter. Just a strong flavor of its own.

Yeah it just tastes like straight up "savory." Almost tastes like fat more than anything.

> Almost tastes like fat more than anything.

Probably because a lot of fat sources have high levels of glutamates in them. You're not tasting the fat, per-say, but the other stuff that isn't fat. It's why beef tallow is so much tastier than neutral oil. Same level of fat.

Re: Aspartame is not that bad? (2022)

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Post by miksuko »

jiaosdjf wrote: post #163
latch wrote: post #156

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Are you moving the goal post? I generally trust health agencies, more so when they all agree.

No I'm asking what language/sentence you are referring to that says "it's safe"

60 years of research have not revealed any dangerous effects in reasonable consumption of aspartame. Hence it is overwhelmingly likely to be safe.

Re: Aspartame is not that bad? (2022)

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Post by FlamingMoe »

ChrisRR wrote: post #59
cael450 wrote: post #36

> Half of the world’s aspartame is made by Ajinomoto of Tokyo—the same company that first brought us MSG back in 1909. There is nothing wrong with MSG either

There's not "nothing" wrong with MSG. But msg is fine in moderation, just like salt, fat and sugar are all fine in moderation too

And water

Re: Aspartame is not that bad? (2022)

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Post by Cpoll »

YeahThisIsMe wrote: post #174
ChrisRR wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's not "nothing" wrong with MSG. But msg is fine in moderation, just like salt, fat and sugar are all fine in moderation too

What's wrong with it?

It contributes to sodium intake, if you're watching out for that. Probably at about a third of table salt's sodium by mass, though.

Might cause overeating too, because it's tasty.

That's it.

Re: Aspartame is not that bad? (2022)

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Post by throw4847285 »

ErroneousBosh wrote: post #155
throw4847285 wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you keep drinking them, you'll likely acquire a taste. I didn't used to like any artificial sugar flavors, but now I've grown accustomed to them.

It's not "I don't like the taste". It is "these taste like they're contaminated with antifreeze". They taste like they've been intentionally adulterated with the stuff they use to stop people drinking poisonous things.

You're underestimating how gross it was to me at first.

Re: Aspartame is not that bad? (2022)

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Post by petra »

m4ck_ wrote: post #33

It's probably not great if you're drinking dozens of cans of sugar free soda every day. All I really know is don't take health advice from influencers, especially if they're selling something, and don't take health advice from people who support deregulation (less industry transparency, oversight, and consequences won't make food or anything safer.)

For those who want diet cola without aspartame, there's an alternative:

https://sodastream.com/products/diet-cola-4-pack

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