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Re: Anki ownership transferred to AnkiHub

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Same for me, while I learned Danish, which is even harder then Japanese.

Sorry if I’m missing an implied /s :D Ftr Danish is a category 1 language, while Japanese is category 4 (" https://2009-2017.state.gov/m/fsi/sls/orgoverview/languages ")

> Sorry if I’m missing an implied /s :D

You caught me. ;-)

Re: Anki ownership transferred to AnkiHub

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Sorry if I’m missing an implied /s :D Ftr Danish is a category 1 language, while Japanese is category 4 (" https://2009-2017.state.gov/m/fsi/sls/orgoverview/languages ")

> Sorry if I’m missing an implied /s :D You caught me. ;-)

tbh I was perhaps also eager to reshare that website someone linked the other day :P I saw a chance and by golly I had to take it.

Re: Anki ownership transferred to AnkiHub

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Is it still 25$ price? Makes it impossible to recommend Anki to friends/students to "try spaced repetition".

Just have them use it on their computer or the web? It improved my grades so much in college that I spent the 25 bucks as a broke student so I could have it on my second hand iPad. This was before AnkiDroid even existed so it's amazing the price is still the same.

That works for people who already convinced that they want to use it. I'm talking about people who've heard it for the first time and they're not going to spend 25$ for some new app just to try. 25$ is unusually high price for an AppStore app and it's just doesn't work unless you're really determined to use it. I don't understand why people are downvoting this.

Re: Anki ownership transferred to AnkiHub

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On the plus side, the actually good mobile Anki client, AnkiDroid, remains out of the hands of this potentially questionable new entity. (AnkiDroid has always been run independently, which is good, considering the state of the iOS client, which has always been neglected.)

I use the official iOS client everyday. What’s wrong with it?

I also use it every day. It does its job, but it has many usability issues that make it less than ideal.

For example, copy and paste retains the text color (probably by design). So, sometimes I get black text on a black background, when the app is in dark mode.

The editing process to remove the formatting is pretty annoying.

It takes me time to find the edit button, which is buried in the menu but prominent in the desktop version. Then, I have to toggle the HTML mode and delete the retained tags, which on a phone takes time. The desktop version, instead, has a button to remove all formatting.

Re: Anki ownership transferred to AnkiHub

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Is it still 25$ price? Makes it impossible to recommend Anki to friends/students to "try spaced repetition".

The web client works just fine!

"Hey, there is an amazing app for learning, but it costs 25$ for your iPhone, so just use web version instead".

Very appealing, makes people try app immediately. :)

Re: Anki ownership transferred to AnkiHub

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I have had a bad experience with Anki so far. Maybe someone can chime in, clearing things up for me: When I search for HSK vocabulary Anki decks or whatever they call it, I found almost exclusively sets of words that are the wrong way around. They showed me the Chinese characters and asked me what the English translation is. I was incredulous about how many wrong decks there are and that I could not find good decks.…

On mobile you can edit the front and back template. Anki is a platform, not a content creator. I would be thankful that someome shared their hard work of creating a deck that has all of the content to meet your needs. For what it's worth, there are many "RTK" decks for Japanese that show english keyword on front and expect you to write the kanji before flipping. Maybe search for an "RTH" deck to go along with the boo…

What does RTH stand for? I am guessing "something something To Kanji/Hanzi".

The deck you linked is not mentioning HSK in the description though. It was maybe 1 year ago or so, that I searched for HSK1-3 level decks and only got wrong direction ones.

I am searching again now:

(1) "HSK1 English" -- nothing

(2) "HSK1" -- lots of results, but also tons of results that are not relevant for me, because they are not for English. -- Results like https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1474834583 -- but that is 1-4 which is too much for me. I either need the 1, 2, 3 levels separate, or 1-3 in one deck. Also finding https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/166845167, which is the wrong way around. Starts right away by asking me "的" instead of something like "(some description here)". When I go to deck options in Anki desktop app, I see "Display Order", but there I cannot select any "English -> Chinese". Tons of options, but none that inverts what the cards show.

One sibling comment informs me, that I have to edit a template somewhere. But I don't know where, and in the deck options I don't quickly see any template editing function.

And this has been my experience with pretty much every HSK deck I found there. It would seem silly, that everyone uploads decks in the "wrong" order. Which leads me to think, that many people cheat themselves, by only doing the recognition part of learning the characters. Why else would so many people upload decks, only so that whoever who downloads the deck has to invert them first, before using them. I also think that many learners are probably not aware of the issue with seeing the character first and then translating to English, in comparison with doing it the other way around.

So now lets do your "RTH" search:

"HSK1 RTH" -- " Error: Please log in to perform more searches."

I am sorry, I cannot even do a keyword search a couple of times??? I need to log in, requiring an account (!) to even find a suitable deck?! OK, at this point I give up again.

Re: Anki ownership transferred to AnkiHub

#177

The best thing that can happen is a fork. There is no way this will make the app worse, at least if you use a phone to do the reviewing. Syncing is sure to become a subscription.

I still haven't quite understood how Anki can apparently be profitable when the web sync with Ankiweb apparently supports an unlimited amount of data (surely some people heavily abuse this - but one never hears about fair use being applied?). Even legit and honest use can mean massive collection sizes since you can have any rich media in an Anki collection.

A few things. Up until now Anki was not a business and was not meant to be profitable.

AnkiWeb also does not support an unlimited amount of data. It's evident that their storage requirements aren't infinite. They aggressively cull content. Not syncing for 6 months results in automatic deletion last I checked.

Re: Anki ownership transferred to AnkiHub

#178

On the plus side, the actually good mobile Anki client, AnkiDroid, remains out of the hands of this potentially questionable new entity. (AnkiDroid has always been run independently, which is good, considering the state of the iOS client, which has always been neglected.)

Given that push notifications haven't worked in AnkiDroid for years, it doesn't feel good to me?

Just one data point but they work for me. (Nothing phone, android 16, Ankidroid 2.23.3 installed from Fdroid)

Re: Anki ownership transferred to AnkiHub

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I have had a bad experience with Anki so far. Maybe someone can chime in, clearing things up for me: When I search for HSK vocabulary Anki decks or whatever they call it, I found almost exclusively sets of words that are the wrong way around. They showed me the Chinese characters and asked me what the English translation is. I was incredulous about how many wrong decks there are and that I could not find good decks.…

>Ultimately, I abandoned Anki and recently proceeded made my own tool for learning the characters, that is highly configurable and that can change the direction with the change of one config attribute. You built an entire flashcard app by yourself, but you couldn't figure out how to edit card templates in anki? Ah who am I kidding, your probably just trying to advertise your app.

I have fun developing useful software catering exactly to my individual needs, learning a GUI framework/toolkit on the side. I don't have fun needing to figure out the abstract concepts of someone else's tool, and needing to search a lot, to find a way to do something that should be very simple and very prominent in the interface, as it seems to be necessary for most decks I can find, in order to properly learn the characters including writing them.

I have not much to gain from advertising my app. It is AGPL and I don't plan on ever selling it. If it is useful to other people, that's great. If not, then it will at least be very useful to myself. I don't see what's wrong with mentioning, that I build my own, especially since this is HN. We are not on TikTok here.

Re: Anki ownership transferred to AnkiHub

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post #83

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True. It should however be noted that the most active maintainer of AnkiDroid will be joining the new entity: > We’re currently talking to David Allison, a long-time core contributor to AnkiDroid, about working together on exactly these questions. His experience with AnkiDroid’s collaborative development is invaluable, and we’re grateful he’s willing to help us get this right. We’re incredibly excited to have him joi…

Yeah, and while they say AnkiDroid is going to be maintained by the original creator separate from AnkiHub, we won't be privy to any employment contract language that makes any work done by the employee as being property of AnkiHub. Which would be an issue.

Why would that be an issue?
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