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Re: Anki ownership transferred to AnkiHub

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Post by iterance »

surrTurr wrote: post #17

> What We Don’t Know Yet > Governance and decision-making: How decisions are made, who has final say, and how the community is heard > Roadmap and priorities: What gets built when and how to balance competing needs > The transition itself: How to bring in more support without disrupting what already works In other words: they have no clue what to do next ( https://forums.ankiweb.net/t/ankis-growing-up/68610/2#p-1905.…

Many community-oriented programs have failed after acquisition because they came out too firm, too decided, and too purposeful, only to realize the community is still skeptical and turning against them six months in.

Honestly, for a program like Anki, starting out by saying "we need to figure out what good governance looks like, as well as what might be agreeable and possible for everyone involved" is a much stronger positioning than coming up with something that may or may not fly to try make a strong first impression. Communities do not follow the conventional rules of American business.

Re: Anki ownership transferred to AnkiHub

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Post by n8henrie »

siva7 wrote: post #6

It was a fascinating symbiotic between nerdy med students from all over the world and an obscure open source flashcard app that originally targeted language learners. I've been part of that community for many years and would have never foreseen this outcome but in hindsight it seems the best path forward for anki.

Amazing. A few nerdy med students and I started a student group for tech back in 2009 or so, a big part early on was preaching Mnemosyne (another SRS app), with shared decks syncing over a free Dropbox account.

Later used Repetitions (iOS / Mac / web) for the steps, EM boards, and informatics boards most recently.

Only within the last year finally tried Anki -- and this time for language.

Re: Anki ownership transferred to AnkiHub

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Post by KPGv2 »

Jacobinski wrote: post #20
infotainment wrote: post #5

On the plus side, the actually good mobile Anki client, AnkiDroid, remains out of the hands of this potentially questionable new entity. (AnkiDroid has always been run independently, which is good, considering the state of the iOS client, which has always been neglected.)

True. It should however be noted that the most active maintainer of AnkiDroid will be joining the new entity: > We’re currently talking to David Allison, a long-time core contributor to AnkiDroid, about working together on exactly these questions. His experience with AnkiDroid’s collaborative development is invaluable, and we’re grateful he’s willing to help us get this right. We’re incredibly excited to have him joi…

Yeah, and while they say AnkiDroid is going to be maintained by the original creator separate from AnkiHub, we won't be privy to any employment contract language that makes any work done by the employee as being property of AnkiHub. Which would be an issue.

Re: Anki ownership transferred to AnkiHub

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Post by [deleted] »

dddddaviddddd wrote: post #67
tpoacher wrote: post #61

I love anki. But upon reading this I think it's high time I exported all my notes in simple text format, just in case. Maybe also try Fernando Borretti's flashcard app I saw (and dismissed) recently here

Anki uses a SQLite database for all its data, so it's already an open format.

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Re: Anki ownership transferred to AnkiHub

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Post by KPGv2 »

embedding-shape wrote: post #27
hermanzegerman wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well every company claims no enshittification when they get acquired, in the end that's rarely the case. It's like Private Equity buying a company out and say "Nothing will change"

The key difference is the outside investors, who more times than not has no interest in what's best for users ultimately.

Outside investors want profits. A company with thirty-five employees wants profits. I don't see a meaningful difference.

Re: Anki ownership transferred to AnkiHub

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Post by KPGv2 »

kyorochan wrote: post #40

AnkiHub people seem kind of slimy in my experience (at least their leader, "The AnKing"). I hope they figure out a good leadership situation, and make stronger commitments to openness. Anki is in a very solid position to be forked if anything happens, so even if this is bad news I have faith in the larger community.

I have this vague sense that this is the opinion of many people in the Anki community many years ago when I last used it (to improve my German vocabulary before my first child was born—with whom I speak German).

I was reminded that AnkiHub's business model is selling Anki add-ons.

So it seems clear they would decline to add competing features to Anki, but instead create an add-on to sell instead, and never add it as a feature to Anki.

Re: Anki ownership transferred to AnkiHub

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Post by KPGv2 »

krick wrote: post #70

I feel like there's a lot of confusion, so not sure if anyone can clear up mine, but I'm really struggling to see a significance of this. Obviously, like all ignorant people do, I am going to oversimplify things here. But still, to me, the "platonic idea" of Anki seems a dead simple thing. All what I care about when using Anki is what's on the 2 sides of a Card, a question + answer, which can only be some visual imag…

> All what I care about when using Anki is what's on the 2 sides of a Card, a question + answer

This is damn near the least effective way to use Anki. Cloze deletion alone surpasses this.

Also, Anki is SRS. The value of Anki is in the rescheduling, not in the fact it's flashcards. And Anki has implemented the FSRS rescheduling algorithm, which is just one more feature not all flashcard apps do.

Re: Anki ownership transferred to AnkiHub

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Post by stevage »

surrTurr wrote: post #17

> What We Don’t Know Yet > Governance and decision-making: How decisions are made, who has final say, and how the community is heard > Roadmap and priorities: What gets built when and how to balance competing needs > The transition itself: How to bring in more support without disrupting what already works In other words: they have no clue what to do next ( https://forums.ankiweb.net/t/ankis-growing-up/68610/2#p-1905.…

I actually really appreciate the honesty of this. Much better than undue confidence.

Re: Anki ownership transferred to AnkiHub

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Post by jacquesm »

surrTurr wrote: post #17

> What We Don’t Know Yet > Governance and decision-making: How decisions are made, who has final say, and how the community is heard > Roadmap and priorities: What gets built when and how to balance competing needs > The transition itself: How to bring in more support without disrupting what already works In other words: they have no clue what to do next ( https://forums.ankiweb.net/t/ankis-growing-up/68610/2#p-1905.…

It seems more than a little bit careless to agree on a deal without having those very important things hammered out. What if there is disagreement about these?
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