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James Moylan, engineer behind arrow signaling which side to refuel a car, dies

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Re: James Moylan, engineer behind arrow signaling which side to refuel a car, dies

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post #39

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whats wrong with usb-a? I feels more sturdy and less likely to have connection issues then usb-c in my experience.

> whats wrong with usb-a? Which way up it should go.

USB-C is better than A in that it works in two orientations instead of one, but the correct answer for connectors should be any orientation — the best connectors are cylindrical connectors: barrel plugs, RCA, BNC, banana, phono, TRS, TRRS, etc. Just make them round.

Re: James Moylan, engineer behind arrow signaling which side to refuel a car, dies

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> whats wrong with usb-a? Which way up it should go.

USB-C is better than A in that it works in two orientations instead of one, but the correct answer for connectors should be any orientation — the best connectors are cylindrical connectors: barrel plugs, RCA, BNC, banana, phono, TRS, TRRS, etc. Just make them round .

Man, there’s nothing more satisfying than the feel of a quarter-inch TRS plug slotting in to a high quality jack. Truly one of the great plug designs.

Re: James Moylan, engineer behind arrow signaling which side to refuel a car, dies

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No the filler placement is sort of a cultural or historical thing. Usually European cars have filler on the passenger side while American and Japanese put them on the driver side. Afaik passenger side fillers are more safe if you run out of gas and need to fill up from a canister at the side of the road. While driver side fillers are more comfortable because you don't have to walk as far to get there.

I recall looking at a car to buy, and the salesman toted the gas cap on the right as the "safe side". The logic was, if you run out of gas, you can refill on the side away from traffic. Dumbest design reasoning. Plan the side, for an event most people never experience?! Or if they do, once... and maybe on a rural dirt road, not necessarily a freeway. Probably wanted an excuse for moving it.

It's also nice not having to worry about opening your door and hitting the pump.

Re: James Moylan, engineer behind arrow signaling which side to refuel a car, dies

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post #136

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In my experience that's only true in TV adverts from my childhood. I've never had one unable to reach in real life.

Try in Europe

I live in europe. It does reach the other side.

Re: James Moylan, engineer behind arrow signaling which side to refuel a car, dies

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The hose won't always reach.

In my experience that's only true in TV adverts from my childhood. I've never had one unable to reach in real life.

I should clarify. The hose probably reaches when the rear of the car is adjacent to where the hose connects to the pump.

(I only drive my normal passenger cars, not trucks.)

But I'm me not in the habit of doing that, because it doesn't usually matter for me.

Re: James Moylan, engineer behind arrow signaling which side to refuel a car, dies

#178

It's a convenient little invention but "the fact that there wasn't a simple way to know which side of a vehicle the gas tank was located on" is not quite true. Usually, if the vehicle is of Japanese or British origin, the cap is on the left, otherwise it is on the right. Source: I’ve driven dozens of different vehicle models all over Europe for decades. This rule always worked well enough for me.

Anecdotally I’ve driven far fewer cars; my Mazda 323 BG has the filler on the left, but my Subaru Forester SG is on the right, despite both being of Japanese origin.

My Forester is likely to be an exception rather than the rule, however I do feel that the everyday person isn’t going to make the connection between the country of origin and filler side, especially so if it’s not consistent.

I never noticed the Moylan Arrow on my Forester for a year in owning it, and often mixed up the side for that time. Interestingly, my 323 doesn’t have the Moylan Arrow, but the Ford Laser equivalent does.

Re: James Moylan, engineer behind arrow signaling which side to refuel a car, dies

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> Which rear facing "key port" on a Mac are you suggesting should be on the front? USB. I used iMacs, mini and pro machines. Any ports in the front would be nice. My m4 mini does have some front ports. It’s less of an issue now with usb-c but the iMac presumably still rear mounts them.

The Mac Studio has two of 6 TB/USB-C ports on the front, and has since inception. So does the Mac Pro (well technically they're on the top now) and has on most models since the G5 PowerMac 20 years ago; The single model without front/top ports was replaced in 2019. So does the Mac mini has two front facing ports now. So your complaint is essentially about the extremely minimalist, consumer-oriented iMac, or maybe old…

When you plug in a USB stick, surely you want it on the front? Do you get around this with an adaptor or something?

My use case seems common. The bulk of my usage of their desktops was during the ultra minimum list era that you mention. I mostly love their machines but some of the form-over-function is rough.

Presumably Pros don’t need access to the power button either.

Re: James Moylan, engineer behind arrow signaling which side to refuel a car, dies

#180
post #43

One of my previous cars didn't have the signaling arrow and I missed it instantly. Such a subtle great idea.

Always found it incredibly strange that my Mazda 323 from 1995 (originally released in 1989) doesn’t have the arrow [1], but it’s co-developed Ford Laser KF/KH does [2]

Although, I believe the platform was primarily developed by Mazda so perhaps they didn’t catch onto this arrow until well after my generation of 323 was on the market.

[1] https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/cBUPxJJlgjs6KOI2.f... [2] https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Kv4AAOSwt-pjJtKG/s-l500.jpg

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