Gemini 3 Flash: Frontier intelligence built for speed

Post by avazhi » Wed, Dec 17, 2025, 6:58 PM UTC

iwontberude wrote: post #166

avazhi wrote: post #141

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"Now, imagine for a moment they had also vertically integrated the hardware to do this." Then you realise you aren't imagining it.

“And then imagine Google designing silicon that doesn’t trail the industry. While you are there we may as well start to imagine Google figures out how to support a product lifecycle that isn’t AdSense” Google is great on the data science alone, every thing else is an after thought

Post by Obertr » Wed, Dec 17, 2025, 6:59 PM UTC

holler wrote: post #170

int32_64 wrote: post #162

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Is there a "good enough" endgame for LLMs and AI where benchmarks stop mattering because end users don't notice or care? In such a scenario brand would matter more than the best tech, and OpenAI is way out in front in brand recognition.

this. I don't know any non-tech people who use anything other than chatgpt. On a similar note, I've wondered why Amazon doesn't make a chatgpt-like app with their latest Alexa+ makeover, seems like a missed opportunity. The Alexa app has a feature to talk to the LLM in chat mode, but the overall app is geared towards managing devices.

Post by encroach » Wed, Dec 17, 2025, 7:01 PM UTC

Obertr wrote: post #169

encroach wrote: post #150

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OAI's latest image model outperforms Google's in LMArena in both image generation and image editing. So even though some people may prefer nano banana pro in their own anecdotal tests, the average person prefers GPT image 1.5 in blind evaluations. https://lmarena.ai/leaderboard/text-to-image https://lmarena.ai/leaderboard/image-edit

Add This to Gemini distribution which is being adcertised by Google in all of their products, and average Joe will pick the sneakers at the shelf near the checkout rather than healthier option in the back

Post by mmaunder » Wed, Dec 17, 2025, 7:03 PM UTC

mips_avatar wrote: post #156

mmaunder wrote: post #143

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Yeah the only thing standing in Google's way is Google. And it's the easy stuff, like sensible billing models, easy to use docs and consoles that make sense and don't require 20 hours to learn/navigate, and then just the slew of bugs in Gemini CLI that are basic usability and model API interaction things. The only differentiator that OpenAI still has is polish. Edit: And just to add an example: openAI's Codex CLI bil…

I'd be curious how many people use openrouter byok just to avoid figuring out the cloud consoles for gcp/azure.

Post by macNchz » Wed, Dec 17, 2025, 7:03 PM UTC

holler wrote: post #170

int32_64 wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a "good enough" endgame for LLMs and AI where benchmarks stop mattering because end users don't notice or care? In such a scenario brand would matter more than the best tech, and OpenAI is way out in front in brand recognition.

this. I don't know any non-tech people who use anything other than chatgpt. On a similar note, I've wondered why Amazon doesn't make a chatgpt-like app with their latest Alexa+ makeover, seems like a missed opportunity. The Alexa app has a feature to talk to the LLM in chat mode, but the overall app is geared towards managing devices.