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I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT, ChatGPT writes like me

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Re: I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT, ChatGPT writes like me

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Post by valbaca »

bookworm123 wrote: post #169
komali2 wrote: post #80

> There were unspoken rules, commandments passed down from teacher to student, year after year. The first commandment? Thou shalt begin with a proverb or a powerful opening statement. “Haste makes waste,” we would write, before launching into a tale about rushing to the market and forgetting the money. The second? Thou shalt demonstrate a wide vocabulary. You didn’t just ‘walk’; you ‘strode purposefully’, ‘trudged we…

Genuine question, what would you write instead of "proceeded to"? To me, as a non native English speaker, it seems reasonable to use this expression, and it would not even stick out to me tbh

> I proceeded to do the work.

> I did the work.

> I worked.

Re: I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT, ChatGPT writes like me

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Post by Mouvelie »

lo_zamoyski wrote: post #114
komali2 wrote: post #80

> There were unspoken rules, commandments passed down from teacher to student, year after year. The first commandment? Thou shalt begin with a proverb or a powerful opening statement. “Haste makes waste,” we would write, before launching into a tale about rushing to the market and forgetting the money. The second? Thou shalt demonstrate a wide vocabulary. You didn’t just ‘walk’; you ‘strode purposefully’, ‘trudged we…

> the deeper I got into the world of literature, the further I was pushed towards simpler language and shorter sentences Language is like clothing. Those with no taste - but enough money - will dress in gaudy ways to show off their wealth. The clothing is merely a vector for this purpose. They won’t use a piece of jewelry only if it contributes to the ensemble. Oh, no. They’ll drape themselves with gold chains and fe…

A nice metaphor, really. I always compared it to food but clothing works more in that case, it seems.

Re: I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT, ChatGPT writes like me

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Post by Forgeties79 »

the_af wrote: post #91
Forgeties79 wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like a great way for someone to accidentally harm their infant. What an irresponsible thing to say. There are all sorts of little food risks, especially until they turn 1 or so (and of course other matters too, but food immediately comes to mind). The stakes are too high and the amount you’re allowed to get wrong is so low. Having been through the infant-wringer myself yeah some people fret over things that ar…

Sam Altman decided to irresponsibly talk bullshit about parenting because yes, he needed that marketing sound bite. I cannot believe someone will wonder how people managed to decode "my baby dropped pizza and then giggled" before LLMs. I mean, if someone is honestly terrified about the answer to this life-or-death question and cannot figure out life without an LLM, they probably shouldn't be a parent. Then again, Alt…

That’s not the questions people will ask though. They’ll go “what body temperature is too high?” Baby temperatures are not the same as ours. The threshold for fevers and such are different.

They will ask “how much water should my newborn drink?” That’s a dangerous thing to get wrong (outside of certain circumstances, the answer is “none.” Milk/formula provides necessary hydration).

They will ask about healthy food alternatives - what if it tells them to feed their baby fresh honey on some homemade concoction (botulism risk)?

People googled this stuff before, but a basic search doesn’t respond with you about how it’s right and consistently feed you emotionally bad info in the same fashion.

Re: I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT, ChatGPT writes like me

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Post by psunavy03 »

codeflo wrote: post #74

To my eyes, this author doesn't write like ChatGPT at all. Too many people focus on the em-dashes as the giveaway for ChatGPT use, but they're a weak signal at best. The problem is that the real signs are more subtle, and the em-dash is very meme-able, so of course, armies of idiots hunt down any user of em-dashes. Update: To illustrate this, here's a comparison of a paragraph from this article: > It is a new frontie…

Armies of idiots hunt down em dashes because they're too stupid to understand the proper use of them.

Re: I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT, ChatGPT writes like me

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Post by flowerthoughts »

ezoe wrote: post #105
dilap wrote: post #60

I read about 4 paragraphs of the blog post, it does not at all read like it was written by ChatGPT! Some people are perhaps overly focussed on superficial things like em-dashes. The real tells for ChatGPT writing are more subtle -- a tendency towards hyperboly (it's not A, it's [florid restatment of essentially A] B!), a certain kind of rhythym, and frequently a kind of hard to describe "emptiness" of claims. (LLMs c…

Hey bro! This is the real English bro! No way we can write like that bro! What? - and ;? The words like "furthermore" or "moreever"? All my homies nver use the words like that bro! Look at you. You're using newline! You're using ChatGPT, right bro?

Given the eloquently natural words in this post, I conclude you must be this thread's prompt engineer! Well done, my fellow Netizen. Reading your words was like smelling a rosebud in spring, just after the heavy snow fell.

Now, please, divulge your secret--your verbal nectar, if you wish--so that I too can flower in your tounge!

Re: I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT, ChatGPT writes like me

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Post by amanaplanacanal »

psunavy03 wrote: post #174
codeflo wrote: post #74

To my eyes, this author doesn't write like ChatGPT at all. Too many people focus on the em-dashes as the giveaway for ChatGPT use, but they're a weak signal at best. The problem is that the real signs are more subtle, and the em-dash is very meme-able, so of course, armies of idiots hunt down any user of em-dashes. Update: To illustrate this, here's a comparison of a paragraph from this article: > It is a new frontie…

Armies of idiots hunt down em dashes because they're too stupid to understand the proper use of them.

They are probably like me: if punctuation isn't on my keyboard, I don't use it.

Re: I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT, ChatGPT writes like me

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Post by latexr »

signatoremo wrote: post #110
oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sam Altman literally said he didn't know how anyone could raise a baby without using a chatbot. We're living in some very weird times right now.

He didn’t say “how could anyone”. His words: "I cannot imagine figuring out how to raise a newborn without ChatGPT. Clearly, people did it for a long time, no problem." Basically he didn’t know much about newborn and relied on ChatGPT for answers. That was a self deprecating attempt on a late night show. Like every other freaking guests would do, no matter how cliché. With a marketing slant of course. He clearly said…

I disagree with the use of “literally” by the person above you, since Sam didn’t literally say those words (unless you subscribe to the new meaning of “literally” in the dictionary, of course).

At the same time, their interpretation doesn’t seem that far off. As per your comment, Sam said he “cannot imagine figuring out how” which is pretty close to admitting he’s clueless how anyone does it, which is what your parent comment said.

It’s the difference between “I don’t know how to paint” and “I cannot imagine figuring out how to paint”. Or “I don’t know how to plant a garden” and “I cannot imagine figuring out how to plant a garden”. Or “I don’t know how to program” and “I cannot imagine figuring out how to program”.

In the former cases, one may not know specifically how to do them but can imagine figuring those out. They could read a book, try things out, ask someone who has achieved the results they seek… If you can imagine how other people might’ve done it, you can imagine figuring it out. In the latter cases, it means you have zero idea where to start, you can’t even imagine how other people do it, hence you don’t know how anyone does do it.

The interpretation in your parent comment may be a bit loose (again, I disagree with the use of “literally”, though that’s a lost battle), but it is hardly unfair.

Re: I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT, ChatGPT writes like me

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Post by sillyfluke »

lynndotpy wrote: post #164
rukshn wrote: post #28

I had a similar experience. We were talking about a colleague for using ChatGPT in our WhatsApp group chat to sound smart and coming up with interesting points. The talk sounds so mechanical and sounds exactly as ChatGPT. His responses in Zoom Calls were the same mechanical and sounds like AI generated. I even checked one of his responses in WhatsApp if it's AI by asking the Meta AI whether it's AI written, and Meta…

I'm definitely in the "ChatGPT writes like me" experience. I am a big fan of lists, and of using formatting to make it all legible on a short skim. I'm a big fan of dyslexia-friendly writing too, even though I am not dyslexic myslef. I can't blame others though- I was looking at notes I wrote in 2019 and even that gave me a flavor of looking like a ChatGPT wrote it. I use the word "delve" and "not just X but also Y o…

> I was looking at notes I wrote in 2019 and even that gave me a flavor of looking like a ChatGPT wrote it.

This would have been my first question to the parent, that I guess he never had similar correspondence with this friend prior to 2023. Otherwise it would be hard to convince me without an explanation for the switch (transition duuing formative high school / college years etc).

Re: I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT, ChatGPT writes like me

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Post by OutOfHere »

It is highly inappropriate to accuse anyone with the claim that their writing is AI generated. This often is used as an excuse to unfairly discredit the content of the message. Whether the content is or isn't AI generated can't be determined with any confidence, and even if it is, it is improper to ignore the message. If you're going to criticize a message, do so on the basis of its actual content, not its alleged authorship.

Re: I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT, ChatGPT writes like me

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Post by rcarmo »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #152
rcarmo wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm bilingual (so not fully native by most criteria) and I read enough classic English literature to actually use "proceeded" regularly, as well as multiple other more established means of conveying my intended meaning :)

> classic English literature to actually use "proceeded" regularly Huh, apparently 'proceeded' was used more commonly in 19th-century writing [1]. [1] https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Proceeded&year...

Well, I read Dickens, Hawthorne, Austen...
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